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So after a great start in the challenge the EA studio totally failed for me in the verification stage losing every single, last, trade. Maybe you just get what you pay for so I’m moving on and looking at the FTMO Robot. I know it’s new, but can anybody report any success with it especially over the last mouth?
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Hey David,
Please make it more transparent what you mean by ”EA Studio failed”. EA Studio is not an EA but a tool we use to create and automate EAs. Do you mean you generated EAs using EA Studio and you put them on a challenge?
The robot performs smoothly and now when FTMO removes the 30-day period for the challenge it gets even easier to pass with it because we are not limited in time.
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Hallo,
I have the following questions about the FTMO
ROBOT.can I scale and for 20,000 then increase the lots to 0.6?
can I probably transfer the robot to other prop companies?
Thanks,
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Thomas,
Yes, you can scale it up!
What I know about using a common EA on various brokers is that the results will not be the same. Some brokers might show greater stagnation, drawdown, and or overall profit than other brokers. So beware of these possibilities!
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Hey traders,
I have updated the FTMO Robot on our website. This is the latest version, Version 3.
- How is this Robot different to the previous version?
- It trades on the M1 Chart using the Envelopes
- There is a Higher Time Frame filter (MACD on M15)
- Option to add to the position
- Spread & Account protections
I have recorded a detailed video explaining How the Robot Works.
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Hi Petko,
Is the FTMO robot the same one included in your FTMO course? Or do I have to purchase it separately?
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Great work Petko!! When will the new FTMO robot be uploaded to the Udemy course?
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Hey Jean,
Glad to hear from you.
The course will be updated with the EA in the very near future. I just recorded a few more videos showing how I pass the 200k challenge and it will take some time for my team to edit the videos.
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Hey Petko,
I hope you are doing well.
I purchased the FTMO Robot yesterday, I am trying to back-test the robot on metatrader5 on a 10k challenge. Looks like is not opening any trades on the back-testing, I am pretty sure the reasons are the wrong settings/inputs, i had to modify them since your video is showing the settings for a 200k challenge :) can you please help me?
Thanks for your amazing job, i like your videos and effort.
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Hey Patrick,
You do not see any trades because the default lot size is huge for a 10k account. Try to lower it to 0.1 and the max position to 0.3 and see if there will be trades.
Also, make sure to use Control Points as a backtesting model.
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hello to everyone, I have the same problem as you, I’m backtesting on an ActivTrades demo account.
I really hope it can be resolved-
Try this solution: https://forexsb.com/forum/topic/7505/error-invalid-order-filling-type/
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Hey Vincenzo,
I think it is the same issue. Please, lower the lot size and try again.
Also, yesterday was the weekend and the FTMO server closed on Friday with a spread > 10 pips.
In the EA there is a Spread FIlter Protection set to 3 pips, so make sure not to use the Current spread but 2 pips for example.
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dear petko,
I tried modifying the spread and the values as you recommended (I attach screenshot of the settings), but the problem remains (I attach screenshot of the error). I need to solve otherwise this EA is unusable. What can I do?
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Have you tried this solution as I suggested earlier?: https://forexsb.com/forum/topic/7505/error-invalid-order-filling-type/
Try using MT4 instead of MT5. I am thinking MT4 does not have this issue.
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1) what setting do you recommend to pass FTMO 100k ?
2) The EA doesn’t has any high new protección right? What do you recommend?
3) I work with a profirm that doesn’t accept Martingale How I can setup the EA non martingale?
4) how I do backtesting I tried I didn’t work
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Hey Jose,
Glad to hear from you.
1. I would use 3 lots so if the EA hits the SL it would be below 1%.
2. What do you mean by ”high new”?
3. The EA does not use martingale: it adds to the position if there is a new signal. However, if you want to avoid the adding just set the entry to 3 lots and max position to 3 lots, so it won’t add on the same directional signal.
4. Abour the backtesting make sure to use a smaller lot and spread of 2-3 pips (not the weekend one)
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Hi Petko
2. What do you mean by ”high new”? I mean high impact news protection
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Hallo,
I have the following questions about the FTMO
ROBOT.It’s for MT4 or MT5
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Either one!
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I have just purchased the FTMO robot. I have an account with Blue Guardian MT4. This EA will not take a trade on the account back testing.
No Trades… nothing.
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I May have found the issue, I did not have any data to back test.
I still do not understand the setting very well and would like to understand more.
Is it possible to see the Envelopes and other things on my TM4 as indicators?
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Hi Kevin,
When doing the backtest on MT4 you have to set up the Strategy Tester correctly. This video will walk you through the process.
As for the FTMO settings, what questions do you have?
The Envelopes can be added to the MT4 chart. You can find the indicators in the list of indicators on MT4.
Alan,
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my main question for this bot is scaling for risk or account size. He mentions 200k account in the video. What would be the best settings for a 100k account, or a 50k account.
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For smaller accounts scale Entry Lot Size, Max Lot size, Amt to Add on lot size, Stop loss, and Take profit proportionally.
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Hi sir,
I installed the EA this monday and the EA had not opened any position yet. This is normal?
Thank you for your support
Jose
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Hi i have buyed the ea yestrday but dont react dont have opened any trade is staying there like dead by the way i have evaluation with myforex funds!?
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Hello Ramis,
The FTMO Robot will open trades when the price hits the Envelopes and there is confirmation from the MACD. The EA is not designed to trade frequently but to take strong reversal signals.
If you do not see trades for a few days, check out the journal for any errors. Also, make sure you keep your laptop/PC connected to the internet all the time, and the MetaTrader connected to the FTMO Server.
I like the word ”dead” for EA :)
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I just purchased it today. Looking forward to testing this out.
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Hello, I have the same issue with most of the people here, I run the EA with a proper setting on FBS Demo account since Monday.
No trades at all.
How can I resolve this?
Thanks in advance.
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Hey Lee,
Check my answer above.
The general expectation is to have a very active EA because these are the type of EAS people buy from the market. Usually, such EAs use martingale to recover the losing trades but those are not suitable for Prop Firms.
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Hi Petko, thanks for your reply.
Yes, today I got my first trade.
Regards,
Lee
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In my backtest, the number of lots is not increased after a loss. But that should happen, right?
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I run a FTMO-Trial with 200k and use 1 Lot for the first position till max 3 Lot. I think that must be okay for a 200k-Account.
But my Expert-Tab shows this Errors…, what can i do?
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Here is how the software creator suggests to solve this problem:
https://forexsb.com/forum/topic/7505/error-invalid-order-filling-type/
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Are you using Netting or Hadging account? It is a problem in MetaTrader 5 if you are using a Hedging account. It won’t be able to add to the position.
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Hi,
I just bought the FTMO Robot yesterday.
Currently using a FTMO trial 10k account.
Is my setting correct?
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Hey Khoo,
Yes, the lot size is the only thing you need to adjust.
But with the new Version 4.0 I would suggest you trade straight with 0.3, not using the adding option.
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Hi Petko,
The FTMO EA is working very well. Thank you.
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Hi Popov,
I can see that further up you explained how to fix this issue for this bot on MT5, however, I cannot find exactly here to change it.
Is there any possibility to show screenshots where I will need to change this commands in order to get rid of this error message?
Thanks,
Tony.
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Hello Petko, can you consider adding a delay to this EA so it can help with being slightly different from other traders?
I’m running this on a few different accounts with different settings but they all opened their positions at the same time.
An option to delay the open order from 1 to 10 seconds in the inputs would be helpful in reducing the risk of being flagged by a prop firm for opening a position at the same time as too many other people and will also help make our trades unique.
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Yes! I have it on my to-do list for the next update!
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That’s great to hear, thank you.
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Hello, FTMO accounts are hadging, I am using MT5. What would be the solution? Because I see that it does not open any operation!
Thanks in advance!
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The following is from a demo account on trading.com using the MT5 Strategy Tester. I can’t use the FTMO demo account right now because I have a 10K demo account with FTMO currently running using MT4. The first chart shows the dates when trades were taken. Notice that it does not take trades every day. The last trade was taken on 8/16. The second chart shows the profit so far this month. The account started the month of August with $200,000. Chart shows profit of $6771.06 so far for the month.
I would expect the FTMO robot to take another trade within the next day or two. Patience!
I would suggest you do a similar backtest to make sure everything is working correctly. The following are the settings I used:
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In the backtest I get a lot of errors. Please help! I don’t know where the problem comes from.
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Thanks for answering me. But the question is, in which do you run the ea, mt4 or mt5 for FTMO account? Because in MT4 when you open the folder to put the EA it only gives the option to put the MT5 version, I don’t know if that will be a problem. Why does it have to do with the type of Hedge or Netting account, right?
Well let’s see if someone can clarify it for me so that I can get it ready to launch operations.
Thank you.
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If you are using MT4 then you need to use EURUSD M1 FTMO Filter M30.mq4.
If you are using MT5 then you need to use EURUSD M1 FTMO Filter M30.mq5 (EURUSD M1 FTMO Filter M30).
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Excuse me, the backtest is OK! Everything works! Thank you so much!
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I was getting the same error in MT5 on demo account and strategy tester:
Press F4 (to get to MetaEditor), go to Search – find in files:
Find what: return ((ENUM_ORDER_TYPE_FILLING)OrderGetInteger(ORDER_TYPE_FILLING));
Replace with: return (ORDER_FILLING_IOC);
Press Replace in FilesNow compile all AE that you needed to change and restart MT5.
I am not sure what does this change do I am not developer. But it fixed my issues.Thanks,
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Thanks for sharing all of that!
Also, with the latest update of the FSB Pro, this problem should be solved. I updated the EAs as well.
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I am getting this error: ModifyPosition: OrderCheck: Position specified has already been closed
Is it anything that I should be worried about or it is not the error but a notification?
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Looks like you are trying to close a position that has already been closed. Remove EA from chart. Close MetaTrader and reload. Add EA back to chart. This should give you a fresh restart.
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Done, this has resolved the issue. Thanks! Hopefully is nothing to do with amount of advisers from you I have been
testing :)
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Should be good to go as long as lot size is adjusted properly so you don’t go over the margin limit and you don’t have more than 100 EAs!
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Hi,
I don’t know why I am not getting Magic number. I needed to add custom order comment. Is there any solution for this?
I know that magic number should disappear when using a comment but without comment I still cannot get MN.Thanks,
Janek
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This occurs when commissions or swap fees are applied.
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So myfxbook and separate account for this 7 pairs would be the best way to track the performance?
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Hey Janek,
Make sure to have the Magic number in the inputs when you drag it over the chart.
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Hi Everybody,
So, since I started using the FTMO Robot V5, my MT5 freezes every time. I have tried everything: closed all, reinstalled everything, checked my internet, and now I even paid for a VPS to let them run. However, my MT5 still freezes. Interestingly, it’s not my MacBook; this thing still works. I already tested the same on MT4, and there’s no issue. I contacted the MQL5 support, but they can’t help me. Do you guys have experience with this or know how to solve this problem? I can’t close MT5 every 5 minutes, and it’s also really slow since I installed the robot.
Thanks for Help! :D
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Hi there,
Anyone that help with a walk-thru or guide on installing the EA correctly, smiley face showing but no trades, have no idea where to start to search for the problem……
Thank you your support herewith will highly appreciated.
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Please help I have noticed the from EA closed a trade at 6 pips in profit i thought it was supposed to close at 60 settings is right yet both lossing trade was closed right at 30 pips??
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Please provide a screenshot of the EA properties box so I can check the settings.
Alan,
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The trend changed and so the position was closed and a new position in the opposite direction was started.
Alan,
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Did it open a reverse trade just after?
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Hello All
I want to just double check, the MT4 and MT5 EA’s are exactly the same right? Even though I am running my FTMO screening test on MT5 I can use the best pair on MT4 with the MT4 EA?
Also, how long do we run the FTMO test phase for ideally? I have seen a few different mentions, like a week, 2 weeks, before we take the best one and enable it on our live account.
Lastly, what is the best approach, from experienced users that has passed their evaluations, do I use just the one best EA with set lot size, or do I use the top 2 or top 3 with split lot sizes?
Thanks!
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Yes it did
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Hey mate,
I can bet you it’s not from the Robot :) It is from the Mac or the Broker. Which broker or Prop Firm did you use?
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Hello All
Could someone from the team please help me out here?
Much appreciated.
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Hi Nicholas,
Answer to question 1) The EA’s are the same. They are coded differently as MT4 and MT5 have different languages. So yes you can use MT5 for testing and then MT4 for live trading. However, be aware of one thing: If MT5 is on a different broker or different prop firm than MT4 then there could be some difference as each broker or prop firm will have somewhat different histortical data.
Answer to question 2) One week or two weeks is not sufficient backtest to see how the EA will perform over the long term as during such short periods of time the market could be trending without any significant retrace or drawdown. During longer periods of time such as one month or longer then the market is more likely to have some small retraces and even a drawdown. If you are going to run your EA for a month or longer than you want to know how it will perform during retraces or drawdown. So it is recommended if you are going to run an EA for a month or longer that you at least backtest it for one month.
Answer to question 3) There is no right or wrong answer to this question. I have used the best 1 to 3 EAs and have found that the 10 EAs they were selected from actually performed better than the few I selected. Then again I have had the opposite occur. The one nice thing about running all the EA’s is that they will compensate for each other. What I mean by that is when one or two EAs are going through a drawdown the others most likely could be profiting, this helps to minimize drawdowns. So, since it is difficult to decide to run 1 to 3 EAs or the whole lot, what I do when I want to have more than a 1% account risk I will then run all the EA’s to minimize drawdown. If I just run 1 to 3 EAs then I keep my account risk to 1% because the drawdowns will most likely be greater. So, running the whole lot with a 2% risk also helps to increase profit. So running the whole lot helps to keep drawdown to a minimum while at the same time increases the chance of greater profit.
Hope this helps!
Alan,
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Hey Alan
Thanks for your response.
On question 2, I may not be clear in my question. So according to Petko, we must run the EA’s on a test account on FTMO before we use the best-performing ones to pass the account challenge. I would like to know if the 2 weeks we run the test enough. We then take the top 3 and add them to our live account, is this correct?
I will keep in mind of course that if I run 3 or more, which makes sense to me, but then adjust to compensate for no more than 1% risk over all three. I would assume I adjust the lot size? So if I then take my top three EA’s over the two week test period, for a 10K account, then the lot size for 1 EA is 0.05 – I would then divide 0.05 by three and use that lot size on each EA. Am I correct in this Alan?
I am planning on only running on FTMO live account s only.
I do have all EA’s running on a different broker demo account just to have a continuous updated best performance on the EA’s.
Still learning…relatively new to trading, been a heck of a journey this far though. As the saying goes, trading is simple, but definitely not easy.
Thanks again.
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Hello, I bought the FTMO robot 1 day ago and activated it, but it’s not opening any trades.
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Hi Granit,
Mine opened one trade yesterday. I only have the one open trade. Please wait another day and you should see a trade.
Alan,
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robot Ftmo 5.o right ?
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FTOM 5.0 AUDUSD! I have only had the 10K challenge running for the last 4 days. 4 trades have been closed and now I have one trade open.
Alan,
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is it because v5.0 is using more entry criteria than v4.3 ?
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Hi kcy001,
Yes and yes!
Alan,
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Hi Petko, thank you very much for your response. I’ve been using my MacBook for about a year, and I’ve been trading on the FTMO Broker account for approximately 2 months now. So far, it has been working without any issues. Could I have possibly made a mistake during the installation? The robots are running on my VPS, and 7 out of 8 have already opened trades, so I believe everything should be running correctly. I’ve also explained the issue to MQL5 support, and they believe it’s not on their end.
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Hey Nicholas,
I don’t really depend on the time period as one or two weeks. Sometimes, there will be more or less trades opened.
But two weeks is enough to check the recent top performers. Then you need to keep in the challenge only the top performers.
Regarding the risk. The set files are for the testing account and if you trade the EAs individually.
If you decide to put more than 1 EA on a challenge, you better lower the risk.
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I have had the FTMO robot on my MT5 for 2 weeks and it has still not made any trade:
– The settings is on the M15
– The algo trading is on
– The only thing i have changed is the take profit (i have only changed it with 10 pips, so if the take profit on the default set files was 60, i have changed it to 50)
– It is running on a VPS
– The broker i have is ACG markets, live 10k accountDo anybody know what i should do to get it going so i can pass the challenge soon.
Thank you.
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Hi Ghiath,
If you run a backtest, do you see trades that would have opened? It sounds like all your settings are correct, and trades should be opening. I’d suggest running the backtest, saving the results and asking the broker why trades have not executed, when clearly, the backtest shows that they should have. Also, check your journal for any errors. Could be a connectivity issue with the broker’s sever.
Cheers,
Ilan
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Hello.
The robot took this trade (inserted image), and I do not understand why exited the trade when it was going the right way, does someone know clearly wich are the exit conditions of it?
Thanks.
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Hey Sion,
Difficult to tell from the image above, without the indicators displaying. But, if it exited, it means the exit rule was triggered.
Cheers,
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how can I add the indicators on the live chart.
Thanks for the response.
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Hello
I have noticed on brokers that do now allow EA trading, such as Rocket21.
I was force to trade manually on that challenge.
Check if your selected Prop firm accepts EA trading.
Good luck :-)
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Hey Sion,
If it’s the FTMO Robot, which I believe it is, they should be on the chart when you load the EA. Have you loaded all 8, and do you see the indicators, like this?:
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I have loaded all 8 robots on the chart but the indicators do not appear.
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The indicators are visible only on MetaTrader 5. You won’t see them on MT4
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I bought a funded account from Funding Pips which uses blackbull markets as their broker and i added the ea’s on Mt5 yesterday but no trades have been taken the ea’s are active with a blue hat on the top. I contacted the broker and they said maybe its the ea’s and that I should check it. Please someone help me.
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hey so i have installed the bot on a MT5 and it not take any trades yet but i hope it is running properly as the hat in the chart shows blue and also i did not have to compile it.I just pasted it in the expert folder of the mt5 and it just appeared.am i missing something?
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copied mt5 robots by ea trading academy to mt5 expert folder. when i refresh the navigator the ea robots do not appear so they can be dragged onto the charts.
nothing in the instructions about this possibility
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Hello,
did you make sure you didn’t copy the “set files” instead of the actual EA files?
(that happened to)
BR Luce
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Hi G.C.,
MT5 does not work like MT4. With MT5 you need to open the MT5 Editor by clicking in the IDE button in the MT5 tool bar. Then you need to click on one of the EAs to open it. Then you need to click on Compile. The EA will now show up in the Navigator. Now do this for each EA.
Alan,
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How do I get the new bot?, I bought the 4.3 and now I can’t access an update
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Contact support at [email protected]
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All my EA’s have got the same magic number. When I change them as I did with the older versions they do not keep the new number. What should I be doing to change the numbers?
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To change the magic number open the EA properties box and scroll down to the magic number to change it.
Alan,
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Hello, can someone step by step show me this
”Increase/Decrease the Envelopes Parameters , MA Period or Deviation % slightly. If you increase or decrease Deviation with 0.01, you will see different entries, exits, but similar results; the entries will be unique:”
step by step how to do this?
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The EAs are optimized for best performance with the indicator settings as is. I don’t change them!
Alan,
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But if you dont change them, how do u make the trades unique ? if its not unique how does prop allows these to work? they would be rejecting/ban acc if everyones entry is same using same parameters of default settings.
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As long as there are less than 2000 identical orders placed per day there is no problem. Even if there are more than 2000 identical orders placed per day they will email you and ask you to make a change. If you insist on making your trade unique change the lot size slightly instead of the indicator settings.
Note: I use the standard settings and have never had an issue with it.
Alan,
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hey i have purchased the ftmo robot package it was showing in my orders and also downloads but suddently it’s gone is it a bug?
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Exactly what I thought, instructions say so but not very clear exactly how to do this but I know this is important …?… @Petko
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Contact [email protected]
Alan,
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Hello Tanyeem, we replied to your email already but I’ll write this here to be helpful for any other user with a similar issue. In the order confirmation email you receive a link and password to download the EAs. You can also find this info in the Orders tab of your Account.
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see it’s gone
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I HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT AND GOT NO FIX FOR IT
I PURCHASED THE FTMO ROBOT NOTHING SHOWS NOT EVEN IN MY EMAIL
CAN ANYONE GIVE ME THE LINK OF FTMO V5.1 THANK YOU
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Go to your account and click on Orders or Subscriptions. If not there them contact [email protected].
Alan,
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I have multiple funding accounts. I want to place the bot on all those. Is there a possiblity that you have multiple windows open for diffrent accounts? Like having multiple meta traders 5 open.
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Yes, you can do that. When you install the MT platform you need to select a different directory (folder name).
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Good day.
my robot is not working and it has been three since i purchased it and it has not taken any trades. does it work only on VPN?
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EA’s should ideally run on a VPS (not a VPN, but a VPS). This is to prevent having issues due to power or internet outages in your home.
However, you should still be able to run the robot on your PC.
When you say it is not working, what exactly do you mean? What are you seeing?
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Hi Jaun I appreciate your answer. what I meant was that it has been three days and it has not taken any trades I am not sure of what could be the reason but i did everything that was instructed on the video but it does not take any trades.
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Hi Milward,
Yes the robot will work on your pc. If you are using MT4 and there is a smiley face in the upper right corner of the chart then the robot is installed properly. If you are using MT5 and there is a blue hat in the upper right corner of the chart then the robot is installed properly.
If the robots were not installed properly you need to remove the robot. Make sure the Autotrading or Algotrading button is depressed and then install the robot.
If the robot is installed properly then you will need to give it more time for a trade to develop. Since you have been waiting for three days now I would expect a trade to develop anytime now.
If none of these solves your problem please let me know!
Alan,
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thanks Alan i will try that
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why is my ftmo robot opening hedging positions in one pair? buy and sell with the same pair at the same position?
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Hi Tanyeem,
MT4 will use hedging if your broker allows hedging. MT5 can be setup for hedging or netting when it is installed. There is an option to select netting. You can ask your broker to switch your account to netting.
Alan,
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Hello
I have put the Robots in a Demo account for $10k. the robot GBP-AUD keeps detaching itself from the chart; please see the right side of the image with Red Line underlined. Where am I going wrong here? I have changed the magic number on all-
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Hi Sammy,
The “Minimum equity protection” has been activated. Reduce to a lower level.
Alan,
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Thanks Alan, how can it be possible as I have not started trading at all on $10k Demo acc, equity is still full on as $10k, what is it protecting
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The Minimum equity protection is protecting your account balance of $10,000. So it is keeping your account from trading as trading could result in a loss which would then cause your account to fall below $10,000. To get this EA to start trading it is necessary to reduce the Minimum equity protection level. For example, reducing it to $9100 would keep your account from drawing down more than 10%.
Alan,
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Hi Alan,
Thanks for the reply again. I have not touched any settings of EA provided and just placed them on the chart as others. I do not understand that why the settings for only this one – GBP AUD M15 are not correct in the set file that I use for $10k account. In fact, the set file provided has these settings below which doesn’t make sense for $10k. Where can I get the default settings from ? Can I simply match the setting from another Robot – e.g. EURUSD M15? Or rather reach out to support to provide me that. I am not in the stage where I would want to tweak it as per my own knowledge but rather trade with the one that Petko has decided for $10k account.
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Hi Sammy,
The FTMO V5.1 robot setfiles for a 10K account are correct but they are different from the image you have provided. Somehow, you did not load the correct setfile. You should have been sent an email with a link for the correct setfiles and robots. If you do not have these setfiles you will need to contract [email protected] .
Also, you cannot just use setfiles for other EAs as the settings will not be correct.
Alan,
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Thanks Alan, my thoughts were same that I haven’t started trading and it was taken off the EA.
I have now asked the support to provide me the correct setfiles of that pair. The irony is that, any users who are downloading the robots and those setfiles, they will all have this error as I have now verified that the above settings in the screenshot is the setfile provided in that zip file.
Now, its the waiting game of when the support will come back to me. I might get my account connect to FXBlue meanwhile.
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Hi Sammy,
After you get the setfile and load it into the EA show a screenshot and I will verify it is the correct file.
Alan,
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Hi Alan
Have you seen the new video of Peko followed by emails to member. I got the access of FTMO Robot App website now. I suppose I can simply fill the desired values there and download the new setfiles in a zip folder.
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In fact, set files are not needed anymore if you use FTMO Robot App website. Now the question is that when I generate my new EA, what shall I do with already opened trades from the older version of EA before I remove the older EA and inject these new EA.
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Hi Sammy,
Yes, if you are going to use FTMO robots v6.0 you no longer need to load the set files.
As to whether or not to close open trades, that is a personal decision. Maybe, leave the robots that are in profit continue to trade and let them hit their TP, and close out the losing trades, as an example of how to handle this situation.
Alan,
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I m testing v6 in multiple acc from different broker in the same VPS …but it seem only 1 acc is opening trade…is there any limitation on account usage per VPS?
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What is wrong with a FTMO Robot? I went through the instructions to install it but it seems it does not work install it but it seems it does not work
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The FTMO robot is installed properly. How long has the robot been installed? If you just installed it within the last day or two you may need to give it more time to start placing trades.
Alan,
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Hi Alan – thank you for your reply.
I installed the free version (EURUSD) of the FTMO robot yesterday, Friday the 12th. I just dont have the window I see on recording (small square on the left hand side with details)
I have attached the print screen of my settings. Is the lot for the 200k account ok to be 5.0 for EURUSD?
I need min 10% of income within 30 days.
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Hi Anna,
The FTMO V5.0 robot EURUSD has been in a losing trend over the last two weeks. Now is not the time to start trading this robot.
Alan,
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After upgrading to V6 i can no longer back test on TFF but i can on FTMO
Any suggestions
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Hi tekbd,
Petko uses the FREE FTMO demo account to backtest. He will then take the best performing Expert Advisors and use them on other prop firms such as TFF.
Alan,
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Good day FTMO Robot Team
I trust you are doing well
I purchased the FTMO robot earlier today.
It has just opened it’s first positions on my 100k FTMO Demo account.
I am trialing the robot on Demo before I add it to a live account.
AUD/USD & USD/CAD opened positions today but I noticed that 2 of the same positions were opened on each of these pairs.
Is this normal or is there perhaps a setting that I need to change? My Demo account is also connected to a VPS.
Thanks in advance.
Richard Lawrie
South Africa
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How many tabs are open on your meta trader? (with the FTMO robot activated)
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I only have 1 tab open for each pair.
I have traded EA’s in the past and have never had this problem so I assumed 2 positions were just opened on each pair due to the EA.
2 positions opened on USDCAD at the exact same price & 2 positions opened on AUDUSD at the exact same price. Just worried this is not normal and puts me at higher risk.
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Hi Richard,
Are you using MT5 hedging account. If so this is most likely the reason.
Alan,
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Thank you Alan
Appreciate the response
Is there anyway I can change this to a non hedging account? I got a FTMO 100k demo account and I logged into that with the FTMO MT5
Another thing… Am I able to close trades manually because I tried to close 1 of the positions of each pair now and I can’t seem to close them manually.
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Hi Richard,
On second thought I don’t think the hedging account is the problem. Do you have Metatrader running on both your home pc and on the VPS? Do you have the robots running on both the home pc and the VPS?
Alan,
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Hello Traders!Anyone here using thinkmarkets broker with FTMO V6?
If so, whats your results so far?
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Hey Alan
Thank you for the response.
I really appreciate it.Yes I was running both on my Laptop and on the VPS.
I have closed MT5 on my laptop now and the EA’s are only running on my VPS.
Let’s see if this works.Thanks again
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Hi Richard,
Yes, that was the reason you were getting 2 open trades for the same currency pair. You will now only get one open trade for each currency pair.
Alan,
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Hi All, got an issue with the V6 FTMO robot on MT5
Getting this message
2024.01.24 15:00:00.320 FTMO Robot v6.0 10k Low USDCAD M30 2070484870 (USDCAD.pro,M30) Error with OrderCheck: Invalid volume
Its on a 5K account so have downloaded the 10k with low risk and removed the min account balance and max account balance.
I have re-downloaded and compiled again but no lukc, Any suggetions?
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Hi Craig,
I think this is an issue with MT5. I think I have seen this problem before and I thought I heard it was fixed. I will forward this to support.
Alan,
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That’s sound complicated. Is there even an acc like $5k?
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Hi there
I completed the compiling of all the downloaded EAs and attached each one to the correct timeframe
After attaching the chart, I notice the EA disconnects from the chart after little more than 1 minute. Any idea why ?
Did I miss anything at the installation ?
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Hi Patrick,
This happens when the FTMO robots downloaded do not match up with the account balance. For example: If you have an account balance of $10,000 then with the FTMO app you need to select the account size before you download the EAs. You also need to select the correct Max Loss, Max Daily Loss, and the Profit target.
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Hi there
Here’s a screenshot where it says Expert Advisor turned off.
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It’s an 80000 euro Account and the EA says 100000. Is that the issue ? You said it would automatically adapt. So I didn’t change anything in the EA now.
Let me know. Thanks
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Hi Patrick,
What I said was it doesn’t matter if the account is in EUROs or USD. If you need any help adjusting your robots parameters let me know.
Do you want to set a price target where the robot will stop working?
Do you want to set a specific account risk you where you will want the robot to stop working?Let me know if I can help!
Happy to hear you got it working!
Alan,
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I got it working Adam. thanks for the guidance
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Hey Patrick, in a recent discussion Miroslav from our dev team explained why the FTMO Robot deactivates due to the ‘Minimum equity’ protection feature. The robot is designed with three key protections to align with Prop Challenge requirements: Daily loss, Minimum equity, and Maximum equity, with specified thresholds to manage risks effectively. For an account with a different size than the build-in you need to modify the protections and adjust entry lots. For 80,000 EUR account an easy solution would be to divide the relevant properties in the $100,000 robot file by 0.8 (80,000:100,000=0.8).
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Hello my robots are not getting the trades. started. and I keep getting this error message in my experts tab: error with ordercheck, trade disabled – only gold trades are going through for some reason?
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I insist, the news filter is not filtering properly. There are news of moderate impact classified as high impact.
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I wonder if this is true? This could explain why my EAs (5 charts) haven’t been trading over the last 2 weeks. I’m going to disable news on all of them and see if that makes a difference. I’ll let you know if I see an improvement over the next week.
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Hy the ftmo robot made a loss the minimum loss Was 500 I have attached the screenshot below please check
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Hi!
every time I reinstall the EA it keeps saying “turned off”
, my license is active.
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Hi Francesco,
In the upper left corner of your trading chart it shows the Minimum Equity protection has activated. This stops your account from trading. This happened because the Prop Firm robots you installed on your trading chart is for a 100K account, whereas, your account size is $50,000. You need to download the 50K robot and install it in your trading chart.
Alan,
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Do we need to allow for the indicators to show on screen for the EA to take trades or this is not affecting trading?
I have added 3 top performers from the app for the last 2 days have not opened any trades yet. Please advise.
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Hi Konstantino,
If you see a smiley face or a blue hat in the upper right corner of the trading chart then the EAs are installed properly and you just need to give the EAs more time to take trades.
Alan,
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how do i install the ea? i have downloaded it but when i try to install onto my chart, it opens the source code in metaeditor, i thought it would install directly onto my chart like other EA?
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Hi Paul4x,
After you add the EAs to Metatrader close Metatrader and then re-0pen it. You should now see the EAs in the Navigator window. Once you see the EAs in the Navigator window you can then install them onto the trading chart.
Alan,
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After downloading the mql file and opening it in the Metaeditor, you would need to compile it for the EA file to be created. This will add the corresponding EA file right above the mql file in the same folder/location you have your mql file at. You can then transfer/copy-paste the newly created EA file to your MT5 terminal data folder -> mql5 -> experts.
After that close the window and then refresh the experts list in your MT5 by right click in the navigator experts list tab then click refresh. This will bring the new EA in the list ready for you to add to the corresponding chart. I hope this helps.
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thanks, yes successfully loaded the bot, however it appears to remove itself after 1 minute from the chart.
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Hi Paul4x
This happens because the robots you downloaded do not match the account size so the robots turned themselves off to protect your account. For example, if you have a $10,000 account then you need to download the robots for a $10,000 account. Which robots did you install? Can you show a screenshot?
Alan,
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fixed the issue, i am running it on my darwin account that was hit by the gold investor loss and my min equity was higher than actual account balance.
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Hello, I am using FTMO (now Prop firm) robots on my live and demo accounts for about 4 months. Really it’s getting worse and worse. I cannot show you all my results from demo accounts because I have only one month demos at my broker, but you can watch my last week results on my demo.
https://www.fxblue.com/users/ftmodemo10000
I have all 14 EAs active on my demo, but on my live account I use only six (month’s) best from Prop Firm App. Unfortunately these which are the best in week for example 12 give worse results in week 13 than others which are the best in next week. It means on my live account where I’m using 6 best EAs my results are bad as well. In my opinion current market conditions are different from those that existed at the time of creation EAs and they simply need updating, I mentioned about it in another topic. I think I will not renew my subscription if the results are still the same as they are now.
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Hi Gregor,
I reviewed your FXblue results. I suggest keeping AUDCHF.pro and USDCHF.pro with current lot sizes. Change other lots sizes to 0.01. Each weekend sort by Net pips, largest to smallest. Then look at Symbols. Pick the ones that are in profit with profit factor greater than 1.2 and increase their lot size to the risk level you are willing to accept. Move all other assets to 0.01 lots. repeat each weekend. This is how I do it. I do not expose my account to more than 3%. For example, if I find 4 assets that have profit for last week and profit factor greater than 1.2 I set each of their lot sizes to represent 0.75% of account balance.
You can follow my topic from start to current status to get an idea of how I trade the robots. The robots I trade are my own but the workflow is the same:
Hope this will help get you going!
Alan,
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Hi Alan,
I started a new topic called ‘Top 10 EAs general questions and 50% discount’ where I also attached some screenshots but it says now ‘This topic is pending moderation.’ and I cannot see it. Is it posted or something went wrong and I have to do it again? Thank you!
best regards
Boyan
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Hi Boyan,
I approved it so you can see it now. However, I do not cover those particular EAs so one of the other moderators will have to reply to your questions and concerns.
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Hi Alan,
thanks a lot. I might have mixed up the topics. Can just please clarify – are the Prop Firm Robots(former FTMO robot) a different animal from the Top 10 EAs, I am getting quite confused. Tnaks again!
best regards
Boyan
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Hi Boyan,
Yes they are different apps. They have different strategies. The Prop Firm robots are best for using with prop firms. The Top 10 EAs are best used with brokerage accounts and are tested using the brokerage accounts listed. I would recommend using the same brokerage accounts.
https://eatradingacademy.com/premium-robots/prop-firm-robots/
https://eatradingacademy.com/premium-robots/top-10-forex-robots/
Alan,
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I no longer have access to the FTMO ROBOT App, I have the massage to connect but I am connected, I have written twice to support via email, no response, I would like to have an answer
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I’ve not had any luck with these EA’s either.
I put them on a brand new 25k challenge account and thought it would generate a safe return over a timeframe. So far it has not made a single profitable trade, hitting stop loss on 2/3 of the trades.
Strategy with this was to use low and medium risk top 3 EA’s for the previous week, checking against the monthly performances, so far this has not worked out. This week I have dropped the take profit pips in hopes it will take any small profit it can, but so far I have not had a single trade that was not negative.
Any ideas what can be done differently? Are the robots not supposed to be able to be used out of the box?
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Hi Gavin,
what EAs are you talking about – the Prop Firm Robots?
Boyan
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Hi Boyan,
Yeah the prop firm robots. I’m currently using the top 3 for the week for 25k account
According to the EA download page, i should be seeing at least a bit of profit, but I’ve got nothing.
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Hi Gavin,
thank you for sharing your experience. For how long have you been using those? I wonder why these Robots made the most profits on the challenges results page? Also Peko makes videos about passing challenges with those. I have a brand new FX2 Funding challenge which I have to start trading soon and I am not sure which robot to start with. I was planing to do it with the Forex Gold Investor, it was crushing it before the 12th of April. Not sure what to do now, I will maybe buy the Forex Diamond EA.
Boyan
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I’ve got a similar problem, using the Prop firm robots as they are on a new 25k account, and they just seem to be tanking it including 4 triggered stop losses losing over 700 in a week. I am using the top 3 for the previous week, on either low or medium risk and just not getting any trades that are not negative.
Are the robots not fit for purpose or am i just doing something wrong? This week I have reduced the take profit pips in hope that it can at least trigger an earlier take profit – even if it is just tiny but nothing yet.
Here are the trades:
Current EA’s:
Can you tell me what I am doing wrong? Should it not be a plug-and play system? I really hoped I could use this on a larger account but looks like I may need to rethink that plan.
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Hi Boyan,
Sorry I’m not sure where my previous comment went..
I am using the Prop Firm ones that are currently top 3 for low risk.
According to the EA page i downloaded them from, I am supposed to be at least a little bit profitable but so far.. nothing.
EURAUD M15 v6.0 #1486211416 – profit $198, drawdown 0.05%
USDCHF M15 v6.1 #1586270803 – profit $196, drawdown 0.49%
AUDCHF M30 v6.1 #1460069807 – profit $186, drawdown 0.13%
those are apparent returns, I am currently -$770, so either I am doing something wrong or these just do not work as advertised.
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Hi Gavin,
The following link will send you to a 9 week series of comments on how I trade the robots I created with EA Studio on my Infinity Forex Fund challenge which is just a few hundred dollars away from getting funded. You can use the same workflow to trade the Prop Firm robots. If you study my workflow and apply it I am sure you can win a challenge. I am also using the same workflow on three other accounts.
https://eatradingacademy.com/forums/topic/ongoing-challenge-10-eas-from-ea-studio/
Alan,
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Thanks Alan,
I’ll give it a try on the 25k account, if it gets saved, I’ll be happy but if not, I will just go back to other EA’s I am running on other challenges.
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Hi Gavin,
I also thought the Prop Firm Robots are a set and forget solution and I don’t really have time to test, because I have only like 20 more days to start trading the FX2 Funding challenge. What other EAs do you use on challenges? Something more profitable?
Boyan
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Hi Boyan,
If you will read through my workflow, see link above, you will see I am forward testing on my Infinity Forex Fund challenge. You can use the same workflow with your FX2 challenge.
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hello, some prop firms add other letters to thier simbols, like EURUSDC, they put letter C after every simble and the robot cant read it, is there some adjustments we can do on the software to make it read it ?
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Hi ahmadaboud,
The added characters after the symbol is just the brokers way of identifying the name of the chart. The robots do not read the chart name, they read the bars or candles on the chart. If you are using MT4 and see a smiley face in the upper right corner of the chart, or if you are using MT5 and see a blue hat in the upper right corner of the chart, then the robots are working correctly.
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Hi Alan,
I took a quick look at you rworkflow, it looks very complex and time consuming. I am still new to forex trading and I thought if I would buy the Prop Firm Robots they would pass the challenge almost automatically and all I have to do is to check in the app week for week what are the top 1 -3 performers. Apparently it is not doable like this, maybe I will look for another solution. In this context I find videos like ‘The Prop Firm Robots Passed 100k Challenge Fully Automatically’ on the TA YT channel misleading.
Boyan
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Hi Boyan,
My workflow is not the only workflow in successful trading it is what I found works best for me. My workflow tests the robots and then increases the lot size on those robots that are profiting. It takes me about 30 minutes once every weekend to check which robots worked best the previous week and then to update the lot sizes. Then I am done for another week.
The workflow on the YT channel is what Petko uses. Petko takes robots shown to be profitable and put them on a challenge. If they hit profit target then that account gets funded. If he loses that account because of excessive draw down then he starts over with a new challenge. He repeats this process until the account gets funded.
While both of your workflows achieves funded accounts they are not the only ones that can be used to become a successful trader. Every successful trader has figured out the workflow that works best for them. I hope you too will figure out what works best for you.
Alan,
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gud day, i download the robots, its telling me i dont have an active plane
my plane is still remaining 2 weeks
this is the second time this happens to me
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Hello Ahmad,
I checked your account and you have an active license until 2024-07-07. After looking into this in more depth, I found out that you have multiple registrations on our site related to your email address. I merged them into one registration. Please try to log in again using one of the passwords you used for the two accounts. If you see a message about a forgotten password, then you need to reset your password and going forward you will be able to easily login using the newly set password.
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Hello guys,
trying to get some insight on these:
1. I understand that optimisation in the app is providing best trade settings per TF and historical data chosen per account size. So besides, lot size do I need to adjust entry protections (spread, max positions max lot) or for example the entry time/schedule? What would you suggest please?
2. I check for 1-3 top performers looking for smoother graph line and lower DD version and use only these. Any suggestions here as well please?
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Hi Konstantino,
Which app are you referring too? The Prop Firm robot app or the Top 10 EA app?
Alan,
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Hi Alan, tha would be the Prop Firm Robot app :-)
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Hi Konstantino,
So, when you access the Prop Firm Robot app the first thing you do is to select the account size, the Daily DD, the Max DD, the Profit target, the risk, and the news filter option. Lets say you select 1% risk. This means you are risking 1% of the account balance. So if you chose to trade 3 robots then the total account risk is 3%. So if the prop firm you are using has a daily DD limit of 5% then there is nothing you need to do. Professional traders do not risk more than 2% on each trade nor do they risk more than a total account risk of 6%. So this strategy would be inline with what the pros do.
I like the idea of looking for the smoother graph line. This is the same as looking for the robots with the lower DD.
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My strategy on reading top performers is : check pairs from Y5 to D1 all the graphs that show smoother lines, lowest DD and match those in Y1 with no big balance gaps against time elapsed to figure out ideally how long it will take for the bots to show positive performance. Then choose no more than 3 top performers to use per week and repeat the process every Sunday to check for changes.
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Hi Konstantio,
Great! Now that you have defined your strategy, test it to make sure it is a profitable strategy. If not, then find out what went wrong, improve on it, and test again.
Let use know how it goes!
Alan,
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A wee update on progress : EU, AU and XAU bots have been running on my 3 challanges (10k, 25k and 50k) for about a couple weeks now. In general there is more win in value than loss, vast majority of trades is with XAU and the last week was not good but still safe under the EP limit.
EU made a couple of trades both of them wins. However for both pairs since the TP was pretty far away, i had to close the trades in profit manually after at least 3/4 of the TP run was done. Sometimes by setting manual trail in MT or by simply cloing the position.
Now based on the above, i will try a different set up for the coming week focusing on even lower top performers 1-2. I will also get all bots in the app running on a 25k demo making sure their total lot size is within the 1% of the medium risk. I ll run them for at least a month to check best performers there and compare with what the app suggests and my selections for the first couple of weeks in order to cross check and have a better view.
I am pretty sure that not all top performers will perform on the blue side, however i am also pretty sure that there are 1-3 that will show promising consistency and i am more than curious to see that since different brokers, different pairs and different market conditions can vastly affect theoretical optimisation, so real market conditions would probably the only way to have better understanding and verify.
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Hi Konstantino,
Great job this past week. I like your approach for this next week. Let us know how it goes!
After you manually closed EU what did it do after words? Did it continue higher, did it finally hit its profit target, or, did it turn down keeping you from a loss? You should document this so every time you manually close a position you will have a record of it. From this record you will be able to determine over the long term which strategy, manually stop out or let it run, would have been more profitable.
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Hey Alan, thanx for the feedback. The EU trade was closed completely as i didnt set up partial tp. After that the bot didnt open any other trades on the same day. After that i switched to a different set up keeping the XAU as more active and due to its higher value wins i had.
However the past few days XAU on M15 has opened a few trades the wrong way (or at least the against the market but at the correct direction at the time just the market didnt follow) so this week i wa a bit at loss. Far from the EP and the losses were smaller as the sl or the manual closing/manual trail were much shorter than the win runs. I am now trying to self control against getting scared if a trade goes the wrong way for say 3-4 hours with no signs or reversal and also trying to figure out if setting manual trail sl would help in some cases. In general, i have studied Petko’s approach with choosing only 1-2 top performers and changing nothing of the settings and simply trusting the system and let it run its course. Maybe only tweak lot size a bit and if profitable start scaling up.
One thing i noticed is that Thursday and Friday XAU opened 2-3 trades thinking it will go buy but market went massively sell so the bot stayed the course until it closed earlier at some point with about 70-100$ loss and at the same time opened a new trade on the prevailing direction and gained back some of the losses in the end. But, since this is not grid or martingale, does the bot do that in general? Closing early and opening new opposing trade on its own? I didnt see any close at opposite signal settings.
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Hi Konstantino,
Last week we had some high risk news events against the US Dollar so this is the reason gold didn’t do well. Over the long tern these news events will favor the US Dollar and gold so it will all average out. Since sometimes these news events can go against gold I would not risk too much on gold so keep lot size under control so gold doesn’t significantly DD your account when these news events occur. Some traders try to close trades ahead of these news events. The problem is there are so many during the month it is hard to stay on top of them. Besides, sometimes these news events will favor the EAs. As a result, I do not try to time these news events I just keep risk under control.
I like to document my trades and my strategy so I can refer back to them and see where I did good and what needs to be improved. I think all traders should do this.
I think you are starting to get control of your trading so keep up the good work.
Alan,
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Why is the traded not triggered after following all instructions for installing the bot ?
Also why is it that when trying to plug in on all other account the bot goes off on other accounts plugged earlier?
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Hi Efe,
As to why the trade is not triggered depends upon the Expert Advisor you are using. Some EAs may only trigger a trade one a week on average.
As to why the bot goes off on other accounts is most likely because the account protections have been activated. If you provide a screenshot of the trading chart I may be able to clarify better.
Alan,
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Thanx so much Alan really appreciate it.
Now regarding news 2 things I’d like to ask: 1. Shouldn’t the EA avoid opening trades during high impact news 2 mins before and 5 minutes after? And if so should we increase this time frame let’s say 30 minutes before and 30 minutes after to avoid these news? Or as you said the news sometimes are just too many so restricting the EA in general could also prevent it entering some favourable news positions and it is virtually impossible to say which is which and try to keep out from all of these so it’s better to let’s say avoid the hard core of the events 2-5 minutes before/after to also be within the prop firms regulation of trading news but also keep the lot size under control so in case things do go south the loss won’t be that big. And simply wait for better days.
I was also thinking about the idea of closing any trade during high impact news (or switch off autotrading) if I see that it goes beyond an acceptable loss limit for me, more than 1/3-1/2 of the SL distance, as this is clearly a sign that price is going the other way to place its self in a position of a new high only to drop/rise from that point after the market is no longer interested in that position (so should also keep an eye on volume – very low volume on strong uptrend/downtrend is a strong indicator of a reversal coming up). But this is something you can manually act upon but a bot should follow its system no matter what and this is what it supposed to do. Which means let it run do its thing be careful with lot size and eventually things should change.
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I am using the Prop Firm Robot, I have done the needful on the installation process and it’s yet to trigger a trade.
I am a bit worried, because I have gotten robots in time past that was a total time waster and never got profits or a refund..
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Hi Efe,
Just give it more time and it will provide trades. When you look at the Prop Firm Robot app and look at the ccount of trades it will give you an idea as to how often the robot trades on average. From this you can get an idea as to how often you should expect the robot to trade. For example, if you look at Y1 and the count of trades shows 52 you can figure that robot provides one trade per week on average. Hope this helps!
Alan,
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I have purchased and downloaded PropFirm Ea and put it onto an FTMO CHART. The only problem is that it says the “EA turned off” on the chart and it hasn’t placed any trades.
IF you can let me know how to trade the PropFirm EA that would be helpful.
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Hi Anne,
This happens when one of the account protections was activated. You can see this in the upper left corner of the trading charts. To resolve this issue you need to modify the Account Protections which is located in the EA properties box.
This usually occurs when downloading the robots where the account balance chosen doesn’t match the actual prop firm account balance.
Alan,
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Am not comfortable with your bot trading strategies and I was thinking it was an instant executional bot, as advertised, I doubt if it will give me the desired result on my prop firm accounts. I will like to ask for a refund based off on these. Kindly do well to give me a feedback as soon as possible.
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Greetings!
Happened to notice that the Robots are not quite working well. As an example, USDCHF is making highs and EA is not giving any buy signals.
Please make sure the ones are updated and working well. After making so much scrutiny I opted for Prop Robots and this is not performing as expected.
I will see the performance for another few days.
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Agree, all robots are not updated and in general there are losses even you choose only 3-4 the best from last month. There are not shown any losses at prop robots app, you can see only 11 which have no loss, but it isn’t a true. Last weeks I tested all 14 robots on my demo and they have very bad results, you can see it in my other posts. The same performs on my live account, but with 6 the best. My money is thrown away and I will not extend my subscription until the robots are updated and start working.
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Hello Gregor,
I see that you are not having a good experience with our Prop Firm Robots.
Please keep in mind that there are bad periods for all robots. Last month we passed a challenge with the Prop Firm Robots. What we did is that we were looking for the top 5 everyday on the Weekly timeframe and High Risk.
What I would suggest is that you try different combinations such the one mentioned above and see which one is working for you. Of course try on a demo account.
Hope this helps!
Kind Regards,
Nikos
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Thanks for your inputs Gregor.
The team has to observe keenly on the development of the said robots.
We brought the Robots thinking that we don’t have to sit in front of the system all the time, and the chosen Robots will take care of our trades, even though we are not actively participating in punching the trades manually.
Our chief aim to procure these Robots is to get profitable/pass the challenges, in our absence.
Many times, most of the pairs are moving a lot and robots are not participating in the Rally/Downfall. By the naked eyes we can see the changes happening.
Many opportunities are coming on daily basis and most of the times, Robots are sitting idle (As they are created/designed for certain scenarios to happen).
I brought the Prop Robots for life time and what I am expecting is they should participate in trade on daily basis.
As trading is happening around 23 Hours a Day and we are unable to find a trade means seriously those are to be re-coded to meet Industries best EAs. (For Example, a Simple Crossover trades we can find any chosen time frames, with minimum 1:3 RR).
Let’s wait for the team on how they can increase the efficiency.
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I turned off all prop robots from academy on my live account and I am working manually, results are much better now . But I didn’t pay for robots to hold them. When you take out for exempel 3-4 best robots from last month they are not the best in the next week, because quite different are the best in this week. The ones you choose bring looses this week, and so on. I think all they need is an update to current market conditions using FSB (forex strategy builder)
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That’s very true. Out of 12 months in a year there will be 9 Plus algo changes in stock market, afterall markets are run by Robots. So we are not certain the last month winning stratgey will work in the next month. If you succeed by using the same old startegy then you are lucky enough. The setups has to be updated on continuous basis. And we can’t test the startgies long time in demo accounts and once we deployed them on real account, we might experience strange experiences (You mentioned that you had experience already).
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I am having trouble getting the PropFirmEA to turn on and my previous post was deleted were the solution was account protections. Can you pls explain the exact process and inputs for the account protections to get this EA to trade.
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Hi Anne,
The first thing you need to do is to make sure you have properly selected the parameters for the Prop Firm EA you want to download and trade. The following chart shows you need to select the Account size of the prop firm challenge, then you need to select the Max Loss requirement of the prop firm, then the Max daily loss, the Profit target, the Risk, and finally the News filter option you want.
Then you need to download the EA and install it on a prop firm challenge that matches the account size selected. For example, if you have started a 10K prop firm challenge, then you need to seleTct the $10,000 account in the Prop Firm Robot app. If you select a $10,000 account in the Prop Firm Robot app and then install the EA in a prop firm challenge with a different account size the robot will not work until you adjust the account protections in the EA.
Then if you have properly installed the EA in metatrader and have either a smiley face of a blue hat in the upper right corner of the trading chart you should be all set up and the EAs should start trading.
Alan,
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Hello Anne. What i would do, is check first that autotrading is on, if the correct url is set in the expert options in metatrader, and if i get any errors in the experts tab or in the journal tab in metatrader. If all this checks out, and i have made sure that i have the correct EA for the correct pair for the correct TF, then i would check if any of the protection settings are on preventing the EA to open trades as it should for protecting the account. By default these are off to 0 for spread, max lot size and max orders open, and only the trading hours are auto calculated for each pair which means the EA wont open trades outside this timeframe. If all the above checks fail to correct the issue i would contact support with a few screenshots for furthert assistance. I hope this helps :-).
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I have selected the FTMO $130K in AUD challenge and put a challenge account size of $100k US on it.
I think that maybe the issue. What do I do in this situation.
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Hi Anne,
You will need to make some changes in the EA properties box. Just let me know what the Max daily drawdown, Max loss, Price target is for the prop firm challenge, also what risk level you want to take and I can calculate the changes you need to make for your 130K challenge.
Alan,
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Is there any possibility to get the mail alerts once the Prop. Firm Robot takes an order?
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I do not know of any way to do this!
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I have completed “The Complete FTMO Challenge Course” and want to re-watch few lessons. When i tried to find them it is not letting me in, showing that in completed courses only. Could you please allow me to know on how to revisit the required content?
Thanks.
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Hi, is there a reason why there are 2 of the prop firm EAs using the same magic number by default, the EURAUD M15 v6.0 EA and the AUDCHF M5 v6.1. It’s a bit confusing as it lumps their trades together when looking at the results on fxblue.
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Hi superalf,
You can always change the magic number!
Alan,
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Hi paul4x,
The EA is set up so as not to take any new trades 15 minutes before the market closes for the day. New trades can then be taken after the market re-opens 15 minutes later. This is done to avoid a new trade occurring 15 minutes before the market closes with super large spreads. There are also large spreads right after the market re-opens, so I would change the number from 0 to 1 or 2 to avoid these large spreads.
Note: The number zero represents the beginning of the new trading day. The number one represents one hour after the market opens for the day.
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AM I missing something? This is the result I got from the USDCHF 15 min robot.
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i have a successful installation on FTMO and other firms. but on chart it says EA is turned off and it removes itself also successfully from the chart. I changed lotsize and all other robot are working fine.
So a successful automatic removal of the EA from the chart is my experience with EA trading academy Robots.
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that sometimes happens if you have your min equity is set wrongly, the bot takes it as being hit EP and removes the bot
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ok, any solutions what to do.?
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i changed the inputs to reflect the account. nothing changed. please see attached.
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Hi Wolfgang,
If there is a smiley face in the upper right corner of the trading chart then you are good to go. Just wait for new trades to develop. To properly protect your FTMO account I would suggest the following:
In the Prop Firm Robot app look at the top left area of the screen where it says Account. Select the account size you will be trading in the FTMO challenge. Also select the correct Max loss, Max daily loss, Profit target, Risk, and the news option. After you make these selections then download the robots you want to trade. So I would remove the robots you downloaded and re-download the correct ones.
Alan,
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Hi @Alan
Yes I’m aware that I can change the magic number, that’s not the point. Why have the same default magic number for 2 different pairs when everything is tied to the magic number (the EA name, the filename, etc). Makes tracking the results very difficult. I’m continuously installing and moving the EAs around different accounts to test and see which are the better performers. Having to change the magic number every time I add it to a different account just adds one more thing to do that should be automatic.
Btw, is there a way to download all 14 EAs together? In the FTMO robots app I can only download the ones visible in each view (yearly, monthly, weekly, etc) but they don’t all appear together.
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Hi superalf,
The magic numbers are randomly generated. As fate would have it, the random generator picked the same magic number for the same magic number for these two robots. Change the magic number in the source code and re-compile. Then when you move the robots around from account to account you won’t have to keep changing the magic numbers.
To download all 14 robots at the same time select Y5, select Add to zip, and then select All.
Alan,
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Hi calebfg256,
You are not using any risk diversification.
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Hi Alan,
Thank you for replying. I’m novice compared to most people here so please elaborate more. If it helps I’ve added more details:
Robots I currently have the below EAs and a $200K challenge at $191k:
Please advise on:
1. How to properly apply risk diversification for the safest and most consistent results?
2. What do the headers “D1″,”W1″,”M1” mean? Does it mean we would be applying the EAs accourning to the sufix timeframe (Ex: AUDCHF M5, on 5 min) and let them run for a day, a week etc accordingly?
3. Any additional heads up/suggestion you have for me to pass the challenge using robots?
Thank You in advance
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Hi Calebfg256,
Answer 1: Before you select a Prop Firm robot you need to make some choices to set up risk and profit target. See image below. You need to select the size of your challenge. You need to select the Max loss, Max daily loss, and Profit target according to the requirements of your challenge. Then you need to determine risk, Low risk, Medium risk, or High risk. Then you need to decide if you want the robot to trade during news events so you need to select the New filter you wish to use.
Answer 2: If you select robot EURUSD M15 for example, then you need to put it on a M15 chart.
Answer 3: To pass a challenge, or to be a successful trader using a brokerage account with robots requires three things: 1. A good robot. The Prop firm robots are very good robots and have been backtested to show they can product profits. 2: A trading strategy. It is a well know fact in professional trading that all traders need to develop their own trading strategy. What works for one trader does not often work for another. If one strategy was to work for everyone, that trader could sell his strategy and we would all get rich. However, it does not work like that. The majority of traders end up losing their accounts. So, my advise is to practice on a demo account until you figure out your strategy for trading. The demo account could be with a forex broker or the prop firm FTMO has a demo account. 3. Risk diversification: Professional traders never risk more than 2% or their account on any one trade or robot and they never risk more than 6% when trading multiple robots at one time. Professional traders never put all their eggs in one basket. So trade more than one robot so that if one robot is drawing down the other robots might be profiting offsetting the loss.
Hope this helps!
Alan,
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What do you mean by Trading Strategy I thougnt the bots used a backtested strategy. I know how to trade but I didnt think we would be using a strategy with the bot and how would we go about using technical analysis with a bot I know how to use TA when I am manually trading using indicators support and resistance Price action etc but how does that work with a bot?
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Hey Derek,
You need to test the robots in demo first to see their performance and then set them in a challenge if you are happy and believe that they will perform well.
And with that, you do not need manual trading here, it’s all automatic once you set it.
Kind Regards,
Nikos
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Hi Alan,
As far as I can tell not all the robots appear under Y5. I only see 12 EAs under Y5 and as I was under the impression that there are 14 in total. For instance I don’t see the USDCAD M5 EA under Y5 and there must be another one missing.
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Hi superalf,
Right now there are only 12. Petko has removed 2 of them and has not yet replaced them.
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So the USDCAD M5 pair that appears under the W1 EA we should not use?
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Hi Superalf,
That pair did not trade last week. However, it will continue to trade in the future. I trade 10 different EAs in my Infinity Forex Fund challenge and in some weeks certain EAs do not trade for a week or two and then they start trading again. So, this is normal. Further, you may pick some robots that traded last week but one or two of them may not trade next week. This is why it is a good idea to diversify.
Alan,
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Hi Alan,
Maybe I’m not explaining myself correctly, let me rephrase. You said that Petko has reduced the FTMO robots to 12 pairs. In the Y5 page there are 12 pairs, so I’m guessing those are the 12. But if I drill down into the other time frames (weekly, daily, etc) there are other pairs aside from the 12 that show up in the Y5 page. So my question is, which are the 12 official EAs that we should use and which are the ones that have been removed that we should stop trading? Is USDCAD M5 v.61 one of the ones to avoid (does not appear in Y5 page). There is also a AUDCHF M5 v6.1 EA which does not show up in the Y5 (but does in the W1). can you please clarify this?
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I am asking Petko for clarification!
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Hi superalf,
I use to be able to go to Y5 and see all 14 robots. Why I cannot do that now is a mystery. It may be that Petko is not testing the shorter term time frames back 5 years like he use to. I am waiting for clarification from Petko.
While we wait I should also invoke some knowledge to you incase you are not aware. The robots are back tested using BlackBull historical data. You may not be aware that all brokers/prop firm historical data is somewhat different. So for example, the top 3 robots in the Prop Firm robot app may not be the top 3 when trading the robots with FTMO. So, when you chose the robots you want to use from the Prop firm robot app don’t expect them to be the same top performers in the FTMO challenge.
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Hi Alan,
Thanks for checking on that. Do let me know.
Right, I am aware that the backtesting is not done using FTMO and that the data and results can change from one broker to another, I have seen this myself. This is why I have been testing the robots myself on an FTMO demo account to determine which are performing better (following your approach with your EA Studio robots, great work there!)
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Hi superalf,
Petko has informed me there will be a big upgrade soon. So lets se if the upgrade solves all your issues.
Alan,
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Hi Alan, so when is this big update coming? It’s pretty confusing how right now some of the FTMO robots disappear in certain timeframes and only appear in higher ones.
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Hi Alan, ok thanks. Do we get an email about this so we are aware of when the upgrade happens?
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Hi superalf,
I think so!
Alan,
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Hey Alan,
I’ve been speaking to Nikos about the Top 10 EAs lately, but he hasn’t answered yet and does not have solutions for some things I asked, especially the issue with trading portfolio EAs and identifying the profitable ones. Could you please take a look at the thread and see if you can add something valuable? Thanks a lot!
best regards
Boyan
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I had an EURAUD M15 trade on May-7. the loss is not showing on your website stats. Is this just an error or you
not keep showing losses (scam?)
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Hi Wolfgang,
The app is updated every hour and shows profits and losses. Here is the problem and some education for you.
The historical data your Expert Advisors use with your metatrader terminal is not the same for all brokers/prop firms. The reason is with the forex market there is not one single source where all the brokers get their historical data. So it is up to each broker to go out into the markets and get their own data. They do this by getting trading data from various banks around the world. Unfortunately, all banks / prop firms do not get their trading data from the same banks. As a result every brokers data will be somewhat different. So when you have a particular EA and you use it with different brokers you will get different results. So when EA on broker A is profiting the same EA on broker B could be losing, AND, when the EA on broker A is losing the same EA on broker B could be profiting. The problem is not the EA it is the historical data used by the brokers.
Knowing this, the app where you got the EA uses broker Blackbull for its historical data. The results shown in the app shows the performance of the EAs using Blackbull historical for educational purposes. You need to read the at the bottom of the app. While the EAs in the app show certain performance, because each brokers historical data is different, it does not mean the same EAs will be profitable at the same time with the broker / prop firm you are using. So how do we successfully use these EAs? Good question! Here is the answer: You need to test the EAs with your broker/prop firm. So how do we do this? Here is how I do it: I install all EAs I want to trade with the broker I plan on using and use a 0.01 lot size so the results do not significantly cause a drawdown. I then let the EAs run for one week, sometimes two weeks. I then review the results to determine which EAs are profitable with the broker/prop firm I am using. I will then chose these EAs to trade and change the lot size to represent the account risk I chose to accept. Currently I am testing 50 EAs I created with a new prop firm I plan to use. I always do this to reduce risk. This is all part of money management.
You can be successful using the EAs from the Prop Firm robots app or the Top 10 EA app, it just depends upon how you do it. Success comes from testing with is part of money management. Money management is necessary to run a home, a business, or in trading.
Hope this helps!
Alan,
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The Problem with this strategy is I did the samething tested for 3 week-4 weeks saw which EA’s were profitable with the broker I am using and then added to the chart for my prop challenge. I was profitable for a week then in 1 week lost all my profits. New EAs come out everyday you add you test those by the time you test them and find winners new bots come out and even if you add after a succesful test they dont last more than a week or two and by then you already had a huge drawdown. So you are in a constant struggle of testing finding winners they work for a week you add new ones and those have a huge drawdown and wipe away all your gains from the week before. So you are in a loop of getting up then giving it all back then getting up then giving it all back.
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Hello,
I connect the V6.1 bot gold to my mt4 account but 0 trade was opened since Friday. Someone have an explication?
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Experience lesson: yesterdays gold super bullish move to a new high, besides eating away all my previous wins of the week, really was the proof and lesson I needed to understand how to better manage the FTMO Prop EA trading. See the SL/TP range is huge and by design that is to allow the XAU movement towards TP. However, as of yet the TP has never been hit, whereas SL sometimes and if not the open trade stays well within loss until it reverses to profit. Sometimes the EA will close the trade early and open opposite direction but not if it doesn’t get the required opposite signals. Now here is the breakdown for me: you shouldn’t allow the EA to go over 100$ in loss with XAU especially if you are running it on default protections with no spread/max lot/max open positions protections. If the EA has opened a wrong direction position, I would let it run up to 100$ loss and most likely close the trade and possibly open a new one manually to the opposite direction as this movement is a strong indication of the trend going the other far the other way and until it comes back that is usually the profit direction. I have noticed that if the pair is chopping there is no real danger as it will definitely return to the opening direction soon. But if the pair is trending and trending strongly, then it won’t come back anytime soon and I would need the opposite direction to match my losses and also gain some profits. So the way the EA trades when loosing at least with XAU, can be used as a strong confirmation to either hedge with an opposite direction manual trade so you can offset the loss to breakeven and even gain some profit while waiting for the reversal or if you want to play it safe simply close the wrong direction after 80$-90$ loss and open an opposite direction IF the chart is showing strong trend and high volume on that trend. The EA usually opens the correct direction but because the SL/TP for XAU is huge you should really be careful when the trade is not going the right way. This supposed to be a bearish move but turned out to be the most impressive bull trend I have seen the last couple weeks with any pair. Due to work commitments I wasn’t on my PC to make changes and caught this late on my mobile after the open loss was about 380-400$, so at that point I had to let it play out. But since it wasn’t coming back this morning and the SL was at about 500$ I closed the trade, as it was affecting all three of my challenges. Thankfully nothing else was open so this move didn’t activate my EP, however I think I ll pass todays trading as the losses counted on todays trading and if another one like this happens it could be an issue. Please note so far the EA has been very successful and was able to manage it correctly. But it needs monitoring like that as sometimes it will be very wrong although its calculations are correct but the market is not playing ball as it has a mind of its own and can go either way without notice.
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i too took a hit on this trade, on friday, loss of £700. I run this bot on my darwin account. So i have a lot aize of 0.19 open. Thing is it was in nice profit on thursday i think by £240 and hindsight says i should have banked the profit but i wanted to see the EA in action.
May have to adjust the TP in the set file going forward and take the small wins.
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@paul4x yep that’s a good idea as well. Tbh the XAU pair seems the most active-profitable-low DD EA on the board so far. However due to its volatility can sometimes return more losses. So perhaps tightening the TP from 9000 to 5000-6000 would be a solution limiting the chances of a reversal as for the price to hit the default TP is a long distance and lots of things can happen to turn things around until it hits that TP. So if the XAU is more active, then yes a smaller TP that would most likely be hit more often would also be an excellent choice.
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@paul4x i would also consider taking my trading pairs to about -50% SL/TP on a 1:2 ratio and possibly add a max spread limit about 15 points for forex and 30 points for xau.
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Hey Konstantinos,
Thank you for sharing your experience.
So, as you mentioned and correctly of course, the market can be very tricky at times and make an EA have losing periods which I believe it’s normal as nobody can really predict the market all the time.
I think the best is to lower the risk of each trade to about 1% or even 2% at most.
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Hi Embi,
As long as you see a smiley face or a blue hat in the upper right corner of the chart and the EA and the chart time frames are the same then you have set up the EA correctly. These EAs mostly only trade one per day on average. So Since you just opened the EA on Friday I would expect you should see a trade on Monday or Tuesday at the latest.
Alan,
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Please check your app. nothing seems like yesterday! I dount that USDJPY got 10 trades during the night… and during the week
and what BTCUSD do in the app??? … and I vever saw USDJPY in the FTMO app
Please fix the display
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Hi Pat,
The display is working on my end!
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Devs were working on it?? it”s now fixed on my side.
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Hi Pat,
BTCUSD and USDJPY were added a few days ago.
Alan,
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Hello,
Why the Ea are always turned off on FTMO?
I have this problem only on FTMO.
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i bought a new ftmo 10k account and wanted to try the robot, so I checked the top 2 performers in weekly and it was usdjpy and usdchf
Usdjpy was the best in the monthly, but when tested in the account usdchf was losing in both weekly and monthly, and usdjpy was in big profit like 4000 profit in the 10k account
i only applied the usdjpy yesterday and will update you with the account
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Hey Faisalaldoseri,
Thank you for sharing your experience with the robots!
There is always losing and winning periods for all robots. That is why our apps are providing new strategies for all pairs every week at least!
Once you have more results to share, please let us know how it goes with the account!
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thanks Nikos
now its the second day but still no trades, in the backtest it took 15 trade this month so you think its fine or somthing is wrong?
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Hey Faisalaldoseri,
Can you please share a screenshot of the settings of the EA and the metatrader platform so that I can assist better?
Thank you!
Kind Regards,
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Thank you for the photos Faisalaldoseri!
So, from what I can understand, the issue could be with the pair suffix. An example of a suffix is like the following: USDJPY.i or USDJPYm. Of course these are just examples.
Please check if there is a different symbol with a suffix and see try to use that instead.
Let me know if that solves the issue!
Kind Regards,
Nikos
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In the symbols there is only one USDJPY and i attached it already
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I see. Can you try to compile the EA?
Kind Regards,
Nikos
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Can you please explain more on that or maybe provide screenshots of the issue?
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Alright. Can you try to download the EA again and try?
Kind Regards,
Nikos
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I downloaded the robot for the 10k account but the robots are not working how to fix it?
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1Hello,
The forex market is open 24 hours a day during weekdays but closes on weekends. Because this market operates in multiple time zones, it can be accessed at any time except for the weekend break.
That being said, please check the Journal and Experts tab for any errors messages that might help to identify the problem and post some screenshots here so we can assist you if there are setup issues.
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Hi guys,
I wonder if you could tell me where I am going wrong please?
I am testing the prop firm robots on a demo account and am getting very different results to what you are showing.
Last week I used the USDJPY M15 #2013751115 and it said that it had 15 trades with a profit of $8 165.
It ran for the week and I made a loss of $4 408.
I went to choose the top 3 for this week and it shows 15 trades for the same pair with a profit of $6 176.
I was expecting it to show a higher number of trades and less profit.
All the other account settings were the same and I am looking at M1.
Would really appreciate your help as I need to be sure of the figures you are displaying.
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Hello Steve,
So, what is the broker that you are using?
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I am in the same boat using the top robots shown on weekly chart and literally every trade is a losing trade I have nearly blown nearly two accounts using the tope robots. It worked for about two weeks with this strategy now today I checked and it shows on Weekly these are the top assets to trade according to the Prop Robot App: XAGUSD M15 #1637565497, EURJPY M15 #1446236375, XAGUSD M15 #57633752. Today for XAGUSD M15 #1637565497 I am down $-520. I looked on my trading history and it shows 4 of my trades all of them hit TP but all TP in a loss!! I set my parameters as follows its a $200k account 3% max daily loss and 8% ($16,000) Target. Total max loss is 8% ($16,000). The 4 trades that took a loss were tiny scalp trades with very close TP near the entry price and all ended in a loss!! The trades are as follows: ALL were .26 Lot size for XAGUSD. Trade 1. SELL ORDER Entry price = 30.9617 SL = 30.9984 TP=30.9818. LOSS of $25.61. Trade 2. SELL ORDER Entry price = 30.6667 SL = 30.6995 TP= 30.6829. LOSS of $19.11. Trade 3. BUY ORDER Entry price = 30.6207 SL = 30.5879 TP = 30.6045. LOSS of $19.50. Trade 4. SELL ORDER Entry price = 30.6592 SL = 30.6920 TP = 30.6754. LOSS of $20.15.
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Hey Derek,
Each and every strategy differs and that is why you see different SL and TP values. But the performance can also depend on the broker or prop firm.
Kind Regards,
Nikos
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So basically it may or may not work at all it all depends. Well for me this bot has lost consistenly and already blew up a prop challenge. I would like a refund. I have tried it out and it does not work
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Why is the bot taking Profit in a loss EVERY SINGLE Time before my SL is even hit the bot changes the TP then takes a loss every time in a loss!!
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Some of the strategies may have a trailing stop-loss. You can look in the Journal tab for messages stating something like “position modified”. If you see such, this means that the particular EA has Trailing SL. I see form your screenshot that you’re trading with XAGUSD only so you may try few other pairs at the same time, as it might be the market is not good for this pair at the moment. On our accounts we achieved the best results when trading with 3-5 EAs at the same time, picking the top performers from the weekly or monthly charts, and replacing them daily so everyday we can trade with the top performers for the desired period according to the app.
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Could someone please tell me? Is this a bug?2024.07.23 11:14:59.376 Prop Firm Robot 100k Medium USDCHF M15 1991239386 (USDCHFp,M15) Error with OrderCheck: Unsupported filling mode
2024.07.23 11:14:59.376 Prop Firm Robot 100k Medium USDCHF M15 1991239386 (USDCHFp,M15) Filling mode changed to: ORDER_FILLING_IOC-
Hey Y X,
That can happen sometimes, no need to worry though. Please close the chart and try setting it again in the platform. After that, try to put the robot in it again and try again!
Let me know if that works!
Kind Regards,
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Hi Nikos,
I understood. Thank you for your reply.
I have another question about the inputs in the Prop Firm Robot. I think the [Entry lots] will be set automatically by Prop Firm Robot App, However, the account size I want to challenge is not included in the options, so I would like to know how the lot size is calculated.
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Hello,
Could someone please help me run the program?I’m trying to run it on the platform “the5ers” MT5.
Program Shows information “Current position closed. Expert Advisor #…. turned off.
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Hey Koala,
Please check that the maximum equity settings. Make sure it’s not more than the balance of the account. Then try again!
Let me know if you need more assistance!
Kind Regards,
Nikos
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Hey Moto,
Can you please provide a screenshot of the whole platform so that I can assist you further?
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When things don’t go as planned, it can be annoying. Considering that the FTMO Robot is still relatively new, I’ve heard varying opinions regarding it. Although some traders have found success, it’s wise to move warily at all times. Make sure to give it a thorough look and think about utilizing a demo account initially. If someone has lately tried it, their opinions would be very helpful!
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I want some honest help why is it that when I use the Prop Robots on a demo account to do forward testing and I use the exact same broker but the bot is trading completely differently? I opned these two demo accounts around the same time for testing I use the same prop robots with the same broker same MT5 through XM.com and they are trading COMPLETELY differently not just slightly but one is taking WAY WAY more trades and very profitable the other is taking only a couple trades and not very profitable and sometimes in a sizeable DD while the other account again same broker is very profitable. I am needing real help here you say do testing on demo I am doing testing on one these demo accouts not for just a couple weeks or 30 days but it never stops I test permanently and then depending on results the idea was to use the same broker and then whatever bots are showing profitable I then add to another demo again same broker and same bots and copy the trades to my prop account. The problem is how can I depend on the results if the same bot is doing completely different trades on the same broker? This has been my constant problem no matter if I do forwward testing with the same broker on a demo or depend on the prop robot app whenever I add those winning bots to my MT$ even if its the same broker I am doing the testing with the trades are always and I mean always different so basically I have no proper data to know if any robot I add to my chart will be profitable its always a gamble because no matter what tests or whether I use the prop robot app results will always be different and can put me in a big loss. I never know what will happen its literally a complete gamble. Every day every week I have no idea what robots will be profitable. So how do you do this its not as simple as just see the winning robots on the prop robot app and each day make sure you check andjadd the top 3-5 robots if it was this simple I would be in profit consistently! I have done this strategy and sometimes its profitable but not nearly the same results as the app is saying or the app says this robot is doing well but yet when I add it to my charts the trades are all losing and puts me in a deep DD. Please help there has to be more to all this!
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Hey Derek,
So, are you using the same account type for example, is it raw spreads on the one account and standard on the other or the same type?
What I would say here is to try a different broker. You can see the brokers we use and what has worked for us here: https://eatradingacademy.com/trusted-brokers/
Maybe the conditions of the broker is not the best.
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Kind Regards,
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Hi Nikos both Demo accounts are through Blackbull its the hedge account I created when I registered on blackbull Markets website I just clicked demo account and selected Demo 2 for the sever and plugged in the account number and password. Is there something else I should look at between these two demo accounts? I dont know why the trades are vastly different same prop robots being forward tested and same demo accounts which is on your reccomended list you sent me.
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look at this both standard accounts and both comepletely different profits both started at $200k account and one is 16k in profit the other is 3k in a loss same prop robots same everything.
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I reached out to blackbull markets and contacted their support they looked into my demo accounts both are standard and they said the only reason the trades are different is because of something in the EAs settings that is different betweent the bots I am using on one account and the settings on the bot on the other demo account but I never adjust settings! So I need help on resolving this.
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They also told me to contact the EA developer and ask if the bots are supposed to take identical trades becuase I took USDJPY for example I looked at the input setttings an both are identical on both black bull demo accounts so same bot and settings the same on both accounts is the way this bot designed is it meant to take different trades even if everything is the same same broker type same XM.com MT5 platform and same input settings is there something in the code that makes the bots trade differently?
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Maybe we can do a zoom share and look at my accounts and bots and see if you see anything.
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Hey Derek,
I see what you mean. In this case, what I can say is to try a different pair if you have not done so and see if the result is the same. If it is the same, we can look into it together!
Kind Regards,
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Yeah I looked into another pair and input settings are the same. Let me know what works for you to take a look at it. Thanks Nikos!
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Hey Nikos check this out I saved the logs for trades made on 07/30/24 as this date I noticed many more trades for USDJPY on one account vs the other and much more profitable. I use chatgpt to analyse the logs and this is what chatgpt is saying between the two accounts that day.
It seems that both files are not being read correctly, possibly due to encoding issues or file formatting. I will attempt to read the raw content of the files to better understand their structure and find a suitable way to process them.
The files are encoded in a format that includes a byte order mark (BOM) indicating UTF-16 encoding, which is why there are issues reading them directly. I will reprocess these files using UTF-16 encoding to extract and analyze the data correctly.
Both logs appear to have a non-standard structure with columns that are not clearly named. The data contains technical information about the trading environment, but it seems the log messages are mixed with system and expert advisor details.I will attempt to clean the data and isolate relevant entries related to trades on the USDJPY pair from both accounts to identify the discrepancies.
The filtered logs indicate entries related to trades on the USDJPY pair for both accounts. Here’s a summary of what was found:565 Account: It has multiple entries for USDJPY trades including market sells and buys with specific volumes (e.g., 3.02 lots, 4.03 lots). These trades are detailed with timestamps and order acceptance confirmations.
363 Account: This log also contains entries for USDJPY trades, but it appears to have fewer trades compared to the 565 account. The volumes and timestamps are also different.
Key Observations:
Trade Volumes: The 565 account has executed more trades with varying volumes compared to the 363 account.
Timestamps: The trades in the 565 account seem to have been executed at different times than those in the 363 account, which could indicate differences in the bot’s trading strategy execution or conditions met during the trades.
Trade Count: The 565 account has more recorded trades for USDJPY, which might explain its higher profitability on the given date.
Possible Reasons for Discrepancies:
Different Trade Triggers: The bots may have different parameters or have encountered different market conditions, leading to a different number of trade executions.
Execution Environment: Differences in latency or execution speed due to the environment (e.g., VPS vs. local machine) might have affected the trade timing.
Configuration Differences: The bots might not have identical configurations, leading to discrepancies in trade behavior.
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Hi Nikos,
I am still having issues with the bot I decided to increase my VPS slices and retest I went to Blackbull markets and reset both demos to $200k but on one of my accounts I see this loss protection is activated. So I dont know if this is a glitch or what?? my daily loss is $7800 My account was at $216k and has $16 in profit not sure why this $214,941 loss protection ( see highlighted) is activated did not reset the bots when I rest my balance back to 200k or something? PLease let me know ewhen you are available to look over the accounts. As there is still the issue of the accounts not trading the same
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Hey Derek,
Please share your EA settings so that I can assist you better!
Kind Regards,
Nikos
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Hey jetmir,
From what I know, most of the brokers have the Gold instrument named XAUUSD. I am not sure if there is a broker that has it named Gold.
Kind Regards,
Nikos
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Hello!
I bought propfirm robot yesterday. I put the top 4 on ftmo challenge 10000 dollars with medium risk. Only one robot execute 2 loosing trade the first one -65 dollars (i stop it my self because it was trading opposite of the trand) the second -94 dollars ( it hit the stop loss by him self). What can I do know?
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I also encounter this issue, it keep losing and I asked in the forum not much help given, I using the top 5 mth/week for 2 challenge,
Top 5 mth I got nice profit in first 3 days then it start losing till negative 1 percent now
Top 5 weekly it start to lose since day 1 and it is in the negative 5 percent already
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Hello,
I have been using the app for 1.5 months, and overall, the results are negative. I have regularly changed the robots, and the performance of your own funded accounts is also poor. What is the reason for this? Shouldn’t the top 3-5 performers reflect the current market conditions?
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The ptobleme is not the challenge account. The probleme is your EAs are not good, i paid that 350 euros. You are making a software to backtest and to avoid testing. You’re EAs are bad. It trade any where, without a logic.
It was written that there is 30 days money back. I want to get my money back because the top 5 of your EAs does not work. And you should stop selling them
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Hey Mourad,
I understand what you are talking about but we and other traders, have passed challenges with our EAs so that means they actually aren’t bad but they are pretty much functional.
As I mentioned, you need to first test them in demo before setting them in a live account or challenge. That is because you need to see how they are working, get comfortable with them and then set them on live account.
If you check the following table, you will see that there are actually results: https://eatradingacademy.com/premium-robots/ftmo-robot/
You need to follow a strategy to get results!
Also, keep in mind that the market conditions also are not good at the moment and that can also cause losses.
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Ive tried to contact by support mail, but no one answer, I will try here:
I have a “Prop firms” product, ive tried put 2 of those bots on the charts, but still have same issue :
“Autotrading disabled by server”
Is shows in the log section, every time, when bot want to open position.
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Still didnt get an answer, I DM Petko, I send email to support, I wrote post here, no one care to answer
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Hello!
I can’t follow any strategy if the robts are loosing the best 3 weekly made 5 loosing trades in a raw and 1 winning trade. You can’t follow your strategy if the ea is loosing. I have already experience. Your robots are bad. I bought them because you sad that there is ko risk to buy them. And if i don’t have result you pay me back. So i need my money back
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I cannot insert image in my post so refer to the 2 images I posted above
Note: I am still in negative of my challenge account,The issue we encounter with the EA (August 15, 2024 at 18:38 post) is keep open losing trade.
while in the website (August 15, 2024 at 18:39 post) it show it is still profitability and requesting us to keep the EA (Cause it never hit the SL of the opened trade)
but once the opened trade hit the TP, it opened another trade quite instantly and it hit the SL, which reflect my account encounter.
Proposal to dev team:
Can adjust the SL to above Open price once it become profitability, so it can open and close trade more frequently and it will reflect more accurately on the website instead of keeping the losing EA cause we might missed the golden opportunity to open that trade (8 Aug as showed above) but cause of keeping the EA it opened 3 losing trade. -
Hi Nikos
so Im a bit confused. you’ve said, “Before testing the Prop Firm Robots on a challenge or live account, first test them on demo. That way you can see how they perform and when you believe there is a good performance, you can just set them on a challenge or live account!”
you’ve also said that on a daily basis we must upload the latest top EAs to ensure we are trading with the best strategies.
so what happens if an EA we are testing on a demo is replaced by a new top one. and this happens almost daily, I check everyday. which one do we go for then.
is it the ones we are testing on our demo or the latest top ones on your app, which change daily.
Regards
T
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Hey Tsholo,
So, what I meant is that before you trade the robots on a challenge or live account, it’s always good to trade them on a demo so that you get used to them and also to be able to find a strategy that works for you to achieve results.
Also, if you see on the App, that there is a more profitable robot, this is the robot you need to import to Metatrader.
Hope this helps!
Kind Regards,
Nikos
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Since August 1st, I have been using EAs, but the performance has not been very successful. I am using low-risk EAs.
I have installed (Prop Firm Robots) (USDJPY M15 #1599046594, EURJPY M15 #1606894234, XAGUSD M15 #1920575341)
These 3 EAs, starting from Monday, August 19th, with low risk settings. I hope to achieve a 5% profit after 2 weeks.
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Hey any update on this ?How is it going ?
I have been running the exact same strategy since the 3rd on a 10 000 usd live account
I first ran it ne a demo and it worked well.
It seems they are working they are just slow and have a lot of draw down
Things I found that work well is enable them after news on a Monday disable early on Friday
Disable them for any big news days
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Hey Nikos
Thank you. This Makes Sense
So coming to that strategy, and from past experience,
- which top 3 or 5 set of EAs do you find most profitable (they win most times). is it the daily, weekly or monthly.
- which give you bigger draw-downs ususally
- and which give you the targeted profit for in shortest time ususally.
Regards,
Tsholo
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I have the following Probem with my Broker TiskelCapital:
2024.08.28 05:14:59.105 Prop Firm Robot 10k Medium USDJPY M15 1599046594 (USDJPY,M15) Error with OrderCheck: Unsupported filling mode
2024.08.28 05:14:59.106 Prop Firm Robot 10k Medium USDJPY M15 1599046594 (USDJPY,M15) Filling mode changed to: ORDER_FILLING_IOC
2024.08.28 05:14:59.206 Prop Firm Robot 10k Medium USDJPY M15 1599046594 (USDJPY,M15) Order Send retry no: 2
2024.08.28 05:14:59.314 Prop Firm Robot 10k Medium USDJPY M15 1599046594 (USDJPY,M15) Order Send retry no: 3
2024.08.28 05:14:59.423 Prop Firm Robot 10k Medium USDJPY M15 1599046594 (USDJPY,M15) Order Send retry no: 4
2024.08.28 05:14:59.531 Prop Firm Robot 10k Medium USDJPY M15 1599046594 (USDJPY,M15) Order Send retry no: 5I tried to close the chart, create new and add the EA, but same result. What can i do?
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Hey Nikos in your experience what Broker is best for the Prop Robots as far as profits? By the way my robots did $16500 in profit today so insane!
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Hey Derek,
There are some that are good in my experience but they are also listed here: https://eatradingacademy.com/trusted-brokers/
It’s so nice that the robots made this good profit. We are always glad to know that our robots are performing good!
Kind Regards,
Nikos
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2024.11.11 22:12:15.498 Expert Prop Firm Robot 100k Medium BTCUSD M15 270707259 BTCUSD,M15: removed
2024.11.11 22:17:16.485 MQL5.community: authorization failedHi I get this error when I am trying to load the EA to the chart.
When I have added the EA to the char after a few minute they get removed and appear these errors in the Expert Tab.How can I fix it?
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Please try to delete your browser cache and cookies and then try again. If problem persists, contact us here.
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Hello, “authorization failed” is not a problem related to the robot. Usually this message appears when you’re entering wrong login credentials for your account. Or if could be that some prop firms don’t allow trading with robots on a trial/demo account. Can you say if the second is the issue or not?
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Hello everyone. After the US elections the markets seem a bit all over the place. Trying 2 BTCUSD and 1 GBPUSD FTMO bots atm. Do you guys leave the default settings as is or do you tweak spread at all? I mean i leave the indicators as is and the all the entry and exit parameters as well as i trust the EA developement and creation process. Just trying to see ideas or suggestions from people that have actually been sucessful either passing or maintaining an account. Any general settings ideas or thoughts on set ups would be much appreciated. Thanx :-)
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Hey All,
So this is my first week of trading with these Prop Bots. I am using the MT5 versions on a $10k FTMO Demo. So far this week the bots are down nearly $450 whilst:
- EURJPY (1238246918) is down $500.
- EURGBP (1582513645) is up $50
- XAUUSD (1611800265) is up $36
- USDJPY (1635766325) is down $200
- BTCUSD (1838199896) is even
- GBPUSD (255882763) is up $58
My question is, is it normal for these bots to have days in which they consistently lose money? Is there anything else which I can do to mitegate the losses? Or am I the only one which has had a poor week this week?
I understand I need to be patient with the bots however through this first week, the performance hasn’t lived up to the expectation: that these bots either cover the loses of each other or make money as is shown in the App.
For clarification all currency bots are running at 1% risk whilst XAU & BTC are running at 0.5% risk due to ensure enough margin is available to trade.
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Hello, combining such diverse assets like crypto, forex, gold, or silver presents several unique challenges due to their differences in market behavior, risk dynamics, and operational requirements. Assets like crypto (e.g., BTCUSD) are highly volatile, with frequent large price swings, while forex pairs (e.g., USDJPY) are typically more stable. Gold and silver have their own volatility patterns, often responding to economic events like interest rate announcements. This variability in volatility can cause uneven performance across the portfolio, making risk management more complex. High volatility assets can skew results, potentially leading to increased drawdowns or unexpected losses. Another issue is that Forex operates within established market hours, and commodities like gold and silver have their most active periods during the London and New York sessions. In contrast, crypto trades 24/7, including weekends, with distinct liquidity patterns. These differences in trading hours can affect execution quality and cause unexpected volatility, especially when moving between market close and open periods.
From our experience with all the challenges where we participated, we never used such a diverse asset selection. We either stick to the forex pairs, or if we trade other assets as well we pick no more than 3 and use the same risk for each so we can identify which assets and EAs are performing well and which not.
That being said, when market is in downtrend, there is not much you can do but wait for a better time.
Hope this helps to evaluate the robots and your setup better.
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Hi EA Academy Support,
Your prop firm robots have a setting of daily loss of 4500 in 100k ea. However, it did not stop after exceeding daily loss of 5000, which causing me failed the 100k challenge on 22 Nov 2024. Can you elaborate why？
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Hi, without more context it’s difficult to say what happened. I suppose the account is closed and we can’t look into it in detail to understand the issue.
You might have global variables (under Tools > Global Variables) that affected the protections or if you were disconnected from the Internet (if trading on a local PC, or for some reason your VPS was disconnected) this would also prevent the EAs from working.
Without looking into the account, I can only guess.
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Hi Support,
could you please cross check the prop firm bots, backtesting incl. the graph and trading does not work for example for BTCUSD , USDJPY and possibly a few others…
As a comparison XAUUSD generates proper backtest values and a graph without any issues.
Could you plesae have a look? And check it on your side?
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Hi,
there seems to be a major issue with prop firm robots.
I am backtesting on MT5, 2023 till today, Blackbull broker with spreads around 10.
Account 100k, Max Loss 8K, Daily Loss 4K, PT 10K
#1 BTCUSD generates a DD of more than 10%
#2 USDJPY doesn’t do anything. Icannot even do a backtest.
#3 BTCUSD wipes out completely after 4 months with a generated loss of 116k
I am wondering how those should work and since we paid a lot of money for it I would kindly ask for a support and feedback.
Thanks
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@dominikdorner, the EAs from the app open trades at the opening of the M15 bar so you should use the Open Prices Only for the backtest. Also when you run the backtest, check how much bars the broker offers for the asset you’re backtesting. Another thing to double-check is that the account size you’re backetsting on is the same there robots are created for – for example if you downloaded EAs for a $100k account, you should backtest them on such account.
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Hi Martin,
I am using the prop firm robots app since more than 3 months.
My best aproach was to use the 3-5 best performing robots per Week (e.g. FX only).
This went really well for a couple of months and I also passed the first phases of prop firms.
Here’s the catch: Since 2 Weeks there are massive draw downs and almost no profits..
Is there anything broken with the app or just a bad month?
Best,
Sandor
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Hi Jia,
the “hat” icon in the top right corner is not blue, which indicates that you probably need to enable algo trading first.
Go to Tools -> Options -> Expert Advisors -> “Allow Algorithmic Trading”
Furthermore when you add the EA to the chart, also set the flag “Allow Algo Trading” in the popup window.
Hope that helps!
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Thanks Sandor, indeed most of the EAs have a few trades per week. One can estimate that by looking at the count of trades on the 1W (weekly) charts and have a better understanding of what to expect.
Another way to debug any potential issues is by looking at the Experts and Journal tabs in the MetaTrader terminal where warning or error messages would point to any potential issues.
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Good day so I started using these eas again and I am opening trades in my personal account but nothing is opening in my 10k challenge have the same bots on both accounts BTC had 2 out of 3 winning trades 1 USDJPY had a loss and the other one just opened and so far it is in profit. but I am wondering why my challenge isnt opening the same trades as my personal account?
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@natedee you can’t expect equal trading in 2 different accounts, especially if one of them is demo and the other one is different (e.g. challenge). That’s because of the different quotes provided by every broker, and also they provide different quotes on demo and live accounts as well.
The next thing you should consider and double-check is if the prop firm offers the same leverage for the assets you’re trading on your demo account. For example with BTCUSD, The5ers offers 1:2 leverage for the asset, FTMO offers 1:3 on the standard account and 1:3 on the swing account, FundedNext offers 1:1 leverage and etc. If your demo account is with some regulated broker, for example BlackBull offers 1:100 leverage for BTCUSD at the moment. So the leverage can affect the trading – with low leverage the BTCUSD can’t open trades because there is not enough margin.
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Hi Support,
I downloaded a few Prop Firm Robots to test out, but they have automatically been turned off. What should I do? Please advise.
Best regards,
Kenneth
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Hi @kenheung05gmail-com, this means that the protections have been activated. If you’re on a brand new account, then you’re using EAs which are not created for the account size you’re using them. If it’s an account that has been active for a while and the balance is not the starting balance, you can use the custom export option to adopt the robots to this account size. I have explained this in depth here, please take a look.
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I really hope it can be resolved
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