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Yeah I agree Petko, EA studio code is incredibly fast and doesn’t require much hardware but current issues could make it a good option. If prevent screen turning off then there shouldn’t be an issue with reactor going inactive though!
The main issue here seems to be somehow the reactor going inactive, a vps can be an option worth pursuing for some. I’d probably do it if I didn’t have my desktops just to allow me not to have a screen on all night.
Kind of a preference thing really though.
Hey Matthew,
You are definitely working things out and seem well on your way to that ftmo prize :-).
Its great to the the good results and I definitely agree. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it, sticking with a system is a major key to success. I got lost a while back jumping around and trying too many things too often.
keep it simple and if it ain’t broke don’t fix it are two excellent rules to live by in trading.
will be interesting to see your results when you get more pairs involved for sure!
Hey Alan,
Wel that aligns with me getting about 40 in 10 hrs which is good. Remember and keep an eye on number of generations though. Also definitely try and get a few running at the same time on each computer and check that it doesn’t slow the reactors too much.
re vps well that depends on how many reactors you want to run at the same time. I would think that with your two laptops you should be able to run 3-4 reactors simultaneously one each so that may be enough for you (it’s plenty really).
I wouldn’t get anything fancy.
You probably have enough power without but if you did want to go that route then being able to run 4-8 reactors 24/7 is plenty in my opinion so a 4-6 core would be a good choice.
Determine how you want to use EA studio etc first before deciding what you need.
You do probably have enough computing power already if you are happy to leave them on 24/7 but I guess I am just thinking screens draw a lot of unnecessary power in this case so possibly not a very elegant long term solution.
but you could maybe just opt for one and try it for a month and see how it suits you, can cancel at any point?
I think we might be close to solving it but yes let’s not count our chickens yet. However what I am seeing is that your 10hr reactor generated just 20% more than what you have just shown was done in 45 minutes. So what is happening is your reactor is going inactive after about an hour and therefore your 10hr run is really just results for an hours run.
So if you were getting typically 3 you could expect about 30 if it had actually run all night.
So before we worry too much about the number getting through the acceptance criteria and the Monte Carlo we want to see that 600,000+ generations after an overnight run.
Does your screen stay on all night? What would be a good option is to get a vps for running EA studio on. I don’t get these issue because I run on desktop.
Also getting half what I get on my desktop is probably fair and should still allow you to get plenty of strategies. How many cores does your processor have?
Also 10% passing Monte Carlo isn’t necessarily a problem, we use it to leave only the more robust strategies and sometimes that is just about 10%. Usually I like to see around 10-25% getting through the Monte carlo
You can run Ea studio on as many computers as you want Alan. I have two mid range desktops running about 6-8 reactors on each computer and each reactor does about 2000 generations a minute which would be about 1.2 million over 10hrs so yes something is definitely up with your computer speed as it is running 22x slower than mine?
For reference my processors are just ryzen 4700g on one machine and intel i5-10400 on the other so really nothing fancy at all both machines cost me under 1000 AUD about 18 months ago.
Let me know how you get on but looks like we have found the issue at last ;-)
Hey Steve,
I’ll take a second look at your post tomorrow as there is a lot to digest in what you are trying to do.
A couple of initial points though.
One is that when Petko suggests checking with 200k bars if have generated using 100k bars this allows a check of OOS BEFORE the insample data as opposed to after the OOS which is done by setting OOS % in generator.
I agree also to stick with Monte Carlo only for robustness in the Reactor. You could increase it’s effectiveness further by increasing the number of tests, or afterwards running it through the validator a second time perhaps but for me it’s the best robustness tool.
I also never really using the optimiser but in this case I can see how it probably is useful for what you are doing. As you have so few indicators and no exit indicator along with not allowing optimization of stop loss and take profit I think it’s okay and has a much lower risk of over optimization than normal but generally I would avoid.
In this specific case I would personally either use only the optimiser in the reactor as you have the setting OR use the normalizer one the reactor as Petko suggests and then for each strategy optimiser only the time entry indicator with reasonable size steps (The more time consuming option but the better of the two in my opinion).
So ideally in a nutshell: Reactor with normalizer and Monte Carlo and then optimize only the time setting on an individual basis with hourly or two hourly steps for example.
Also check out the time setting in tools for either control of when your strategy trades.
Hope that helps
Hi Alan,
Yes that is what Petko is saying and it is definitely the case.
Make sure that you close other unneeded applications and browsers when running the reactor. Also take note of the number of strategies generated and not just the number making it into the collection if you’s want to gauge how optimally EA studio is working.
My rough rule of thumb is to run a separate window running a single instance of EA studio per processor core.
Also make sure that your browsers are active, you cannot minimize them. This is the main reason I want to see a screenshot actually, I want to see how many strategies have been generated rather than added to the collection. I suspect the window may be going inactive.
After an overnight run the number of generated strategies should be many hundreds of thousands and maybe even over a million depending on computing power.
Hopefully that’s the issue as I really don’t think it’s to do with the account settings like I originally suspected.
Oh and always use chrome of course :-)
Hi Alan,
I noticed that after I had sent you the settings so change to 20% for normalizer.
Also my reactor using your settings generated plenty of strategies throughout the day? Can you confirm that you are now generating plenty strategies with these settings (About 40-50 over night?). Hopefully the issue is resolved now? If not then please send me a screenshot of your reactor page after running all day. Cheers Sam
Hey Alan,
I checked my reactor this morning and had 42 strategies in collection. That’s from running the same settings as you but I changed the account settings to default.
I have set it running again with your account settings so will update you tonight.
meantime I would suggest using the default account settings as this will be absolutely fine as long as you are trading a portfolio of say around 10 EAs (which you should be).
Also you setting look good btw, except that I would change the normalizer to 20% OOS to match your generator.
Optimal pack is Avery good choice btw Alan. I’d focus on EA studio for now but it’s excellent value to get FSB pro for the extra cost as you develop as a trader you will be glad to have both options :-)
Hmm, I’ll take another look in the morning Alan. That was the thing that stood out but perhaps I was too hasty in thinking that was the issue.
As to how those changes would affect the simulated trading, shouldn’t be a problem as long as a semi sensible portfolio.
I’ll actually quickly set it running on my computer and see how it looks in the morning also okay ;-)
Also please keep yours running overnight and I I’ll likely want a couple of screenshots from you in the morning to compare. I just loaded that file to Ea studio and hit run on reactors and in 3 mins have 2 added to the collection, will see how it looks in the morning though.
Hey Alan,
I checked out your settings file and I see the issue :-). You are using a 0.1 lot size on an account that is too small. Presumably this is the account settings you intend to trade so you should definitely be setting the lot size in the strategy properties to 0.01. I would also increase the range of the take profit and stop loss a bit.
I will email you back the modified settings file that added a couple of strategies to the collection in about 5 mins.
I’d probably recommend that you increase the account size/ leverage a bit during the generation and then can check on your account size/leverage using the validator. This will help you get a feel for the threshold values that are sensible.
I personally just use a 10k account with 100:1 leverage using a 0.1 lot size (pretty much the default) during generation.
Also in the data horizon uncheck the start date box and just have the bars set and the end date set. That’s just my preference though. Hope you checked out that thread and video also ;-)
Let me know how you get on.
Ill be able to take a look in about an hours time
Cool, I’ll need you to send me your settings file first though? Have you downloaded it yet? Once you have sent me the file definitely check out those links I sent you also. Both are really very useful when starting with EA studio ;-)
Feel free to either attach the file here or just email it to me. I’ll get it quicker with email though ;-)
Also I would strongly recommend you check out this video https://youtu.be/z8FF1Uefdpo as a further check of how well EA studio is doing it’s job :-)
I know there is just something off with this particular issue in the settings. Can be a bit slow resolving this way but as a long term user I’m sure I will be able to get to the bottom of it quickly once I upload your settings and take a look.
Hope the above forum thread and videos are helpful.
Hi Alan,
100% EA studio is working correctly. But there is definitely some input that is off somehow.
I think the quickest and easiest way for me to get to the bottom of it at this point is for you to send me your EA studio settings .json file?
Are you able to attach it? Just go to tools and save settings and you will get a json file.
Having been through this process several times myself and also helped others, there is often some doubt with EA studio at the start and then later zero doubt and shown to be user error. It’s remarkably clever and highly quality assured software without doubt :-)
Take a look at the thread below of someone having total dispair about Ea studio not working properly and then working through with support to find that all is well:
Send the settings through and I will take a look at what’s going on tonight and get back to you ;-)
