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September 20, 2018 at 14:15 #6310
edu
ParticipantSeptember 20, 2018 at 14:39 #6312Petko Aleksandrov
KeymasterHello Edu,
Glad to hear from you. Actually you did not do properly some of the tests, and also it is very important to optimize the EAs according to your Historical data. As I explain in the course, the brokers provide very different quotes/prices, and that is why you will see some bad or negative resutls from the EAs I included in the course. That is why there is a lecture in the course, where I teach how to do proper optimization.
1. Regarding your Historical data, on USDJPY M1, I see that you have only 11479 bars on your FSB strategy, and with EURUSD and GBPUSD you have 65k. Make sure you get more bars for USDJPY, anyway 11k bars for M1 is really really small period of time.
2. The 65 000 bars is limitation from Meta Trader that you can remove. Go to Tools – Options and click on Charts.
Enter 9999999999999 as a number on both, and click on OK:
Restart Meta Trader, and press again the Home Key for the small time frames as M1 and M5 Then export again the data with the script for FSB.
And than you should make the test, and optimize the strategies using FSB as I show in the course
September 20, 2018 at 15:27 #6315edu
Participantthank you as always
September 20, 2018 at 16:55 #6317edu
ParticipantHello again i did what you said and instead of 65K i have now 70K
i try to optimize the GBPUSD strategy. The equity looks very well (see image) but probably the data aren’t so much.
GBP USD BEFORE:
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GBP USD NOW WITH NEW PARAMETERS:
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What do you think? should i keep yours (with more data) or should i use this?
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With EURUSD doesn’t change anything, and it keeps to look good with 0,03 and with 0,05
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With USDJPY i wasn’t able to do with more than 11k candle—————————————————————————————————————————————————————-
For EURGBP I have 56K for m15 and i tried to optimize it and something crazy happened.
before
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after with parameters
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what do you think? What should i do?
Thank you
Edoardop.s do you so 1 vs 1 consultant?
September 20, 2018 at 18:46 #6318Petko Aleksandrov
KeymasterHello Edu,
you did a very good job! Only on the Slow MA period on the Moving Average crossover indicator. You see the ] sign after the 20. This means that it possible can give you a bigger number if you give it a bigger maximum range.
You better test the parameters from your brokers data. You can run a Monte Carlo test to see if the strategies are not over-optimized.
Also, EURGBP look really good on your data.
What you need to do is just leave the Meta Trader opened, and it will collect you more bars with the time. After that just drag the scripts over the Meta Trader, and place the data in the FSB.
You should try to generate strategies as well with FSB. Did you watch the free lectures that we have on the website from the developer of FSB? They are very useful, and they will give you better understanding of FSB.
I do not do 1 on 1 lessons any more. Simply because, during the last 1 year I had more than 12 000 students joining my courses, and I couldn’t do it physically, and to answer all mails. That is why we started the forum. So this way, when someone ask questions just like you did, all the other students will see the answers and solutions, and the support is much more effective and faster.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Kind regards,
September 20, 2018 at 18:47 #6319Petko Aleksandrov
KeymasterHello Edu,
you did a very good job! Only on the Slow MA period on the Moving Average crossover indicator. You see the ] sign after the 20. This means that it possible can give you a bigger number if you give it a bigger maximum range.
You better test the parameters from your brokers data. You can run a Monte Carlo test to see if the strategies are not over-optimized.
Also, EURGBP look really good on your data.
What you need to do is just leave the Meta Trader opened, and it will collect you more bars with the time. After that just drag the scripts over the Meta Trader, and place the data in the FSB.
You should try to generate strategies as well with FSB. Did you watch the free lectures that we have on the website from the developer of FSB? They are very useful, and they will give you better understanding of FSB.
I do not do 1 on 1 lessons any more. Simply because, during the last 1 year I had more than 12 000 students joining my courses, and I couldn’t do it physically, and to answer all mails. That is why we started the forum. So this way, when someone ask questions just like you did, all the other students will see the answers and solutions, and the support is much more effective and faster.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Kind regards,
September 20, 2018 at 19:15 #6323edu
Participanthello thank you very much!
i will try to collect more data (i don’t know how much time it will take), i am already using other EA so keep meta trader open isn’t a problem
No i haven’t yet read the lecture but thank you for the suggestion!I will.
————————————————————————————————————————————————————Do you have some video about monte carlo test. i did it after cheched the 20] problem but i don’t know how to read it
this are the results for GBPUSD:
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This is the EURGBP MONTE CARLO
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I think this posts will be very helpfull for many students
Thnk you again no problem for the coaching
regardsSeptember 20, 2018 at 20:04 #6332Petko Aleksandrov
KeymasterHello Edu,
the free lectures are actually in video on the FSB Pro page: Tutorials for FSB Pro
The results are negative with you in the Monte Carlo because you have used nearly all of the options. And because you have small data, your EAs probably are a bit over-optimized.
With Monte Carlo I use it normally with the last 2 Strategy Variation, and I remove all the rest. Simply, the Monte Carlo in FSB Pro makes variety of test for the things you choose on the left side. So here it made many different tests with skip positions, slippage and so on. That is why the results is like that.
Give it a try only with the last two, because these are about the strategy. And this is what we care about.
The first one are the Market variations, if you have problems with your historical data(yours is just small) and the spread. Second are the Execution problems, which are about your broker. If you have such, you better change the broker.
Let me know what are the results with the last two only.
Kind regards,
September 21, 2018 at 9:58 #6374edu
ParticipantSeptember 21, 2018 at 11:23 #6377Petko Aleksandrov
KeymasterGood morning Edu,
yes, this is another thing.
The Randomize backtest starting bar option in FSB shows that the EA is robust no matter when you will start trading with it. Because normally when a trader takes an EA he starts always a t a future moment using it, not during the becktested period.
Randomize indicator parameters is the strongest test for me. It performs variety of test using different parameters for your broker. For example, if you have the RSI period of 9, it will test it with 6,7,8,10,11,12.. You can set the options for the Monte Carlo from here:
September 21, 2018 at 11:40 #6379edu
Participantperfect i am happy to hear that My Monte Carlo tests went good.
I tried also to increase the “number of tests” from 20 to 40 and it keeps to look almost the same. Should i change others parameters?
From your experience now that you have confirmed me that this two strategies look robust, what should i do?
A) Test in real
b) Keep to collect more dataand also should i try to optimize it every month like you do?
EDU
September 21, 2018 at 12:13 #6380Petko Aleksandrov
KeymasterHello Edu,
I always suggest the students to test sometime on Demo account before placing on real account. It is important to understand that it is a personal choice and responsibility when one will place the EAs for live trading.
It is good to test it on Demo account until the moment you feel comfortable for live trading.
And yes, you should collect more data, with the time your strategies will become more robust. Also, during the time you collect you can practice with FSB and create more strategies.
Kind regards,
September 21, 2018 at 22:43 #6389edu
ParticipantGood Evening,
yes obviously i will never ask to you to suggest me to invest. Today I tried the GBPJPY with the expert aadvisor studio after i have tried for 5 days this strategy in demo (every day in loss)
this is the results:
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I tried also to optime (after i watched your videos) but anything changed. What should i try?
i would like also to ask you in a monte carlo test how i recognize an overoptimize strategy?
have a nice weekend
EduSeptember 22, 2018 at 10:06 #6391Petko Aleksandrov
KeymasterHello Edu,
this backtest looks bad. When you optimize in EA Studio, you have an acceptance criteria. Try to remove it, and do the optimization. This way you will see if the issue is there. If it passes, than try to make the acceptance criteria not so strict.
The Monte Carlo itself is the robustness test for over optimization. If it fails, it means that the strategy is probably over-optimized.
Another old method to see if a strategy is over optimized is to change manually some of the parameters in the indicators. If you see huge difference in the equity, this is also a sign that the strategy is over-optimized.
Have a beautiful weekend too!
Petko ASeptember 22, 2018 at 14:52 #6401edu
ParticipantWow thank you i wasn’t aspecting a reply on saturday.
So i tried as you said, here i removed the “acceptance criteria” and the equity changed
after i try to put bigger criteria, but anything changed
So i try the montecarlo test. First parameter
then the second (doesn’t look good)
What do you think? Should i remove this from the demo and try another ea?
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Before i didn’t explain well, i was asking:If Monete carlo test:
– Give me an equity similiar to my ea’s equity ——-> Good Strategy and not overoptimize
– Give me a different equity ——-> overoptimize strategyis this correct?
Thank you and again have a good weekend
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