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February 23, 2017 at 10:21 #436148
Stoyan Stoyanov
ModeratorIn topic, traders share their experience and results with the Trading Robots from EA Studio.
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October 31, 2018 at 15:09 #6721
Anonymous
InactiveThis is my results from last week.I’ve been trading 1 hour chart.I’m new to trading and it is nerve racking.Marin Stoyanov is going to add the pictures.I’ve been straggling to add them.
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November 2, 2018 at 18:09 #6735
Anonymous
InactiveMirriam, thanks for sharing your results:
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November 2, 2018 at 18:12 #6737
Anonymous
InactiveMarin, told me that you were asking if these were good EA results.
First, they are positive, which for me is good EA results.
Second, I guess these are the EAs from the TOp 10 GBPUSD course, aren’t they?
And I see that this is result from 3 days, which again for me is good, even I can say very good EA results for 0.01 lot.
Kind regards,
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November 4, 2022 at 19:35 #130184
Anonymous
InactiveHello everyone and Sam!
It’s been a while since I last visited this forum. To be honest, I had a very frustrating moment with the EA studio and almost gave up on it completely. What got me frustrated most is when I moved my best winning EAs which performed really well to a mock live account, it ALWAYS tanked! I followed every single step (literally) Petko taught in Udemy course but NOPE – it still tanked!
So I decided to just let my demo account run without touching or, hell, even looking at it for almost 2 months. And then I checked the results again and tried to move the winning EAs to a mock live again. This time it works SO MUCH better. Finally, I’m seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
Here are my notes:
** DISCLAIMER: These are my notes from my personal experiences. I could be wrong. I’m just sharing my journey. Your journey will be different because we have different ways to process things. Don’t take my notes and apply blindly. **
– My best-performing TFs are M15 and H1. I tested M5 with multiple currencies. The results looked amazing on EA studio and when applied in the real world, the results weren’t consistent. One week worked great, but two weeks later tanked. Worked great again in the next 4 days and tanked. It’s like women in that period of time.
– When choosing the winning EAs, my best lookback timeframe when comparing the results is 1 month and 3 months minimum. I noticed that when I use the lower lookback timeframe than 30 days, the result isn’t consistent. But when I compare the result in the last 30 days with the results of 90 days (or more – the longer the better), that’s when I start seeing the profit. If I have to guess, it’s because I give the EAs more time to perform? — I will need Sam to confirm this hahaha
– Complicating EA studio reactor doesn’t mean your strategies will be better. I tried WFA, normalizer, or whatever the software has. I keep it simple and run it without any optimization. If it creates too many strategies, I just re-run it again with 90% Monte Carlo
– My best-performing currencies in the past 4 months are GBPJPY and EURGBP. They both survived every month. I’m running the other 10 currencies alongside but these two are my tough cookies. Don’t ask me why because I don’t really know hahaha. I just speak from my results
Last but not least, if you read this far, you will go through multiple frustrating moments and want to give up completely. Take a break as long as you need but make sure to come back to it. Don’t give up.
Cheers!
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November 6, 2022 at 11:29 #130388
Anonymous
InactiveHey Tanya,
Glad you shared your experience in the Forum. And I am with you, it’s not easy. I never said it was easy.
And the traders should never stop improving their systems. Because if one thing works now, there is no guarantee it will work tomorrow.
Taking a break is smart.
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November 6, 2022 at 11:37 #130484
Anonymous
InactiveHi Tanya,
Well done for your perseverance. I am very happy to hear that your results are improving so much!!
Believe it or not if you are starting to get consistent results already then you are moving fast :-)
I do remember trying to impress that it is best to wait a minimum of two months really before moving your EAs (Id say ideally three minimum even), but we did cover a lot and it is SUPER hard to be patient as a new trader ;-)
Keep doing what you are doing, and remember to set another incubator account running every few months so if you start not having enough EAs passing your selection criteria you have a fresh account as back up with sufficient demo trading history.
As long as the incubator account has sufficient EAs that have performed well on real market conditions though and your strategy moving system is working (keep it simple!), then keep doing what you are doing.
Perseverance is absolutely critical for trading! I’ve had many moments of similar dispair in my journey also
Keep working at it and you will improve and get more consistent and your understanding of what works and what doesn’t and why will deepen.
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November 6, 2022 at 12:04 #130487
Anonymous
InactiveIt actually sounds like you are following the Plan really well Tanya ;-)
I am super pleased to hear your deepening understanding and experience, you are doing things right.
I know we covered it but we of course covered a massive amount of information and I can see you are definitely really getting it now by what you have written! And as I say, this is actually fast comprehension ;-)
Stick with what you are doing and keep things simple. And yes when moving EAs I have found that giving things things time under real trading conditions (I.e. demo account) is important which makes sense for several reasons.
Also stay diversified but it’s great that you are getting good results with those two pairs.
Also remember to hold on to those good robots that have stood the test of time on the real markets.
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November 7, 2022 at 13:47 #130543
Anonymous
InactiveFor anyone reading this, Tanya has given a really great summary with her notes and understanding btw
To add to this and also for Tanya especially.
1. Keep doing what you are doing and keep things simple
2. Don’t risk real money until you are getting stable results for sufficient time and then start small only (like a 1000 dollar account maximum)
3. Practice good risk management (hugely important)
4. Remember that even the best systems and strategies have drawdowns, this is inevitable. Sometimes even for a month or two
You sound well on your way Tanya but don’t rush (Remember that Patience is key ;-) and persistence. Keep improving, deepening your understanding and slowly scaling up your risk (absolute not %) along with your experience.
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July 17, 2023 at 15:44 #183775
Anonymous
Inactiveim having problems trying to recreate the advertised results. im testing the Top 10 Forex EAs on mt5 ICmarkets broker. ive tried every tick and every tick modeling but still get bad results. how can i fix?
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July 17, 2023 at 16:38 #183802
Anonymous
InactiveIn the Top 10 EA course, Petko uses the last one year of historical data to generate the EAs. When testing the EAs you need to limit the historical data used to the last one year. When I look at your balance line over the approximate last one year I see the EA is generating a nice balance line.
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July 17, 2023 at 18:59 #183821
Anonymous
Inactiveahh yes i see what happened. i also have the ftmo ea and i have big drawdown compared to the advertised results
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July 17, 2023 at 19:24 #183841
Anonymous
InactiveThe problem with passing the FTMO challenge in the past was balancing the account to have a large enough lot size to pass the challenge within 30 days and keeping the lot size small enough so as not to violate the Max Drawdown. Fortunately, lately, the time period has been eliminated from the challenge and the verification phase. So now you can reduce the lot size to help from violating the Max drawdown while taking longer to pass the challenge/verification phases. However, the problem I see with reducing the lot size is what lot size to use. So what we need is a safety net! And, here it is:
You can set the Min, equity protection to a certain percentage you will allow for the Max Drawdown. Here I have chosen 3% of a $10,000 FTMO account. What this means is that if the account drops by 3% from its initial account balance the open trade will be closed and the EA will be deleted. You will then need to reinstall the EA to make it active again. So how do you know when to reinstall it and keep it from further drawing down your account? You have a few options. You could run the EA on the FTMO demo account and monitor it. When the demo account starts profiting you might restart the EA on the live account. Another option would be to restart the EA on the live account but make the lot size small. Once the account starts to make profit again then you can increase the lot size back to its normal value. And, another option would be to test the EAs on the MetaTrader Strategy Tester to see when the EA starts profiting again and then activate it.
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November 17, 2024 at 14:41 #378657
Alan Northam
ParticipantCREATING EA POOL and DEMO ACCT
Over the last 46 days I have been building up a new pool of Expert Advisors. Every two weeks I used EA Studio to create new EA’s from 10 different forex currency symbols. I then selected the top performing EA from each symbol and added it to an MT5 demo account I call the EA pool. So far I have collected a total of 77 EA’s in the pool.
This first graphic shows I have been building this pool of EA’s for 46 days.
This graphic shows the 10 symbols in the pool.
This graphic shows I have a total of 77 EA’s in the pool as is illustrated by their individual magic numbers.
I will continue adding additional EA’s to the pool until I have a total of 99 EA’s. At that time I will start removing the bottom 10 losing EA’s so I can add 10 new ones. Note: MetaTrader only allows for a total of 99 EA’s when each EA is attached to a separate chart.
This last week I filtered the pool of EA’s so I could select the top EA from each symbol. From these 10 EA’s I then selected the top 4.
This next graphic shows the top 4 selected EA’s individual magic numbers.
This graphic shows the symbols of the top 4 EA’s selected.
This next graphic shows the balance line of the top 4 selected EA’s over the a 42 day period excluding this last week.
This graphic shows the calculated monthly return of 0.8% based upon a lot size of 0.01 lots for each of the 4 symbols. By increasing the lot size to 0.1 lots the monthly return would have been 8%. Not bad!
This last week I moved the top 4 EA’s to a new demo account and increased the lot size to 0.1 lots.
This first graphic shows the balance line of the top 4 selected EA’s over the last one week.
This final graphic shows a nice calculated monthly return of 9.0% based upon this last weeks performance.
So what do I do now? Each week I will filter the EA Pool and select the Top 4 EA’s. If the top 4 EA’s change I will remove the old EA’s from the demo account and add the new EA’s. Then after one month I will re-evaluate the demo account and decide to move it to a live account.
Do you want to learn how to use EA Studio so you too can create your own EA pool? Click here!
Alan,
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November 23, 2024 at 4:31 #379881
Alan Northam
ParticipantThis first graphic shows the balance line of the top 4 selected EA’s over the last 14 days.
This final graphic shows a nice calculated monthly return of 9.0% based upon the last 14 days performance.
Today I replaced three of the EA’s with new EA’s selected from the pool of EA’s and kept one EA. The EA’s selected from the pool were the top performing EA’s for each Symbol based upon their performance over the last 30 days. For this next week the portfolio will continue to contain four EA’s.
I will continue to monitor and make necessary updates to the EA’s in the portfolio for the next one month. This one month testing period will validate the strategy I am using in selecting the EA’s from the pool and are added to the portfolio. At the end of the one month evaluation period I will evaluate the portfolio and decide to move it to a live account.
Note: A am also adding 10 new EAs to the pool this weekend. For more about the pool see previous postings above in this topic.
Do you want to learn how to use EA Studio so you too can create your own EA pool? Click here!
Alan,
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December 1, 2024 at 16:14 #381717
Alan Northam
ParticipantThis first graphic shows the balance line of the top 4 selected EA’s over the last 21 days.
This final graphic shows a nice calculated monthly return of 9.0% based upon the last 21 days performance.
Over the last 21 days this demo account shows a monthly return of 10.5% with a profit factor of 2.64.
Note that if I were trading this account with a prop firm I would have passed the challenge within 21 days.
This weekend I filtered my EA pool (see previous post to learn about the pool) For each of the 10 symbols I trade over the last 30 days. I then selected the top 4 EA’s to trade this next week. For example: I set FXblue to filter the pool for AUDUSD. It then gave me all the EA’s magic numbers for AUDUSD. I then filtered these magic number for the best Net Profit. I then selected the top EA. I then did this same thing for all ten symbols. I then took all then magic numbers, one for each symbol, and filtered them for best Net Profit. I then selected the top 4 to trade this next week. As it turned out two out of the four magic numbers were the ones I traded last week so I will continue to trade those this next week. Two of the magic numbers were not traded last week. So I will add these to my portfolio and remove two of the worse performing magic number from last weeks trading.
I will now trade my demo portfolio for another week.
Note my demo portfolio is a MT5 demo account. Once I have traded this demo account for one month I will then start using it to trade my FXIFY 25K demo account.
Alan,
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December 1, 2024 at 22:01 #381767
Sand0r
ParticipantDear @alann-northamgmail-com,
thanks a lot for sharing this!
How much time and effort do you currently put in creating new EAs?
I am big fan of automating things and I am currently working on a script to download and attach the EAs to my MT5 accounts, also thinking about further automation like creating new EAs via EA Studio API.
If you are interested in a more detailed discussion, I would be very happy to hear from you! My mail address is
s4nd0r90 @ gmail.com
Looking forward to hearing from you!
Best,
Sandor
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December 2, 2024 at 12:13 #381876
Alan Northam
ParticipantHi Sandor,
I have a separate workstation pc I use for creating EAs’. I run 10 instances of EA Studio, one for each symbol, for a week and then download the best 10 EA’s. I repeat this every week. At the end of the month I will select the best 10 EA’s, one for each symbol, and add them to my pool of EA’s. I also eliminate the 10 worse performing EA’s from my pool once a month.
Alan,
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December 9, 2024 at 15:10 #383018
Alan Northam
ParticipantThis first graphic shows the balance line of the top 4 selected EA’s over the last 28 days. This last week was not kind to my portfolio. I believe this was due to the markets waiting for the Non-Farm Payroll report that comes out on the first Friday of the month. This report can and often does result in extreme market volatility. This volatility can then hit Expert Advisors stop losses which is what happened causing the balance line to fall.
This last graphic shows a nice calculated monthly return of 5.0% based upon the last 28 days performance. Even with the portfolio retreating this last week this graphic shows the calculation the portfolio should still be able to gain 5% on a monthly basis. This is still sufficient for the portfolio to hit a prop firm profit target within a two month period.
This weekend I filtered the EA pool and selected the top five EA’s, one for each symbol, and added them to my portfolio. I will report the results of this next weeks portfolio performance next weekend. I will continue to monitor this portfolio until the end of this year. Based upon its portfolio I will determine whether or not to use this portfolio to copy trade to a prop firm early next year.
Alan,
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December 15, 2024 at 12:21 #383970
Alan Northam
ParticipantThis first graphic shows the balance line of the top selected EA’s over the last 35 days. The balance line continues to trend in a downward direction. One reason this could be happening is the big speculative traders are closing out losing positions before the end of the year for tax purposes. I don’t know that for sure but it could be the reason. Anyway, I will remove all the EA’s this weekend and replace them with top performing EA’s once again from the pool.
This last graphic shows a nice calculated monthly return of 2.3% monthly return based upon the last 35 days performance.
This weekend I filtered the EA pool and selected the top seven EA’s, one for each symbol, and added them to my portfolio. I will report the results of this next weeks portfolio performance next weekend. I will continue to monitor this portfolio until the end of this year. Based upon its portfolio I will determine whether or not to use this portfolio to copy trade to a prop firm early next year.
Alan,
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December 16, 2024 at 12:56 #384116
Gordonpip
ParticipantHi Gordon here. I do not know my way around yet but I did the EA Strategy builder pro course yesterday and in getting to the end Petko shares his pool of Collections but they are dated Jan 23 so are they relevant at the moment to use? he said on the video that he would keep them up to date but are they? Many thanks Gordon
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December 16, 2024 at 13:39 #384122
Alan Northam
ParticipantHi Gordon,
I don’t know if Petko’s pool is up to date. You might be able to download the pool and look for dates on the individual EAs to see when they were created, or you can ask Petko by sending an email to support. As for pools, I created my own pool.
Alan,
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December 21, 2024 at 15:02 #385049
Alan Northam
ParticipantThis first graphic shows the balance line of the top selected EA’s over the last 42 days. Note the balance line has started to turn upward during this past week. The balance line started turning back upward as a result of replacing all the Expert Advisors last weekend. The replaced Expert Advisors were chosen from selecting top performing Expert Advisors from the pool, one for each asset.
This last graphic shows a nice calculated monthly return of 4.1% monthly return based upon the last 42 days performance.
This weekend I will once again select top performing Expert Advisors from my pool of Expert Advisors and add them to my portfolio while removing all Expert Advisors used last week. Hopefully, this will help to keep the balance line moving in an upward direction.I will continue to monitor this portfolio until the end of this year. Based upon its portfolio I will determine whether or not to use this portfolio to copy trade to a prop firm early next year.
Note: I do not have any plans to continue with this topic after the first of the new year.
Alan-
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