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    • #193202
      User AvatarChris Barry
      Participant

      Hi all,

      Three days ago I  installed the 7 FTMO EA’s and didn’t change the settings and the lot size has stayed the same which is 1. I have been losing (-700.00) with 0ne or two wins. I also had a -1,117 hit to my account because the EA opened GBPCAD and didn’t leave a stop lose so this trade is red.  My question is: Should I stop using the EA’s, Should I make some changes, or Should I increase the lots size from 1 to ?. This is a prop account and I was positive before the EA’s, so I have some room to turn things around. Thanks for the help,

      Chris

    • #193454

      Hey Chris,

      Glad to hear from you.

      1. I updated the FTMO Robot with 7 versions, but this does not mean you have to trade all of them in 1 account but select which one you want to use. For example, you can put them all in one trial and follow the results. Check which ones bring the most profits and use it on your Challange or Funded account.

      For example, here are all my recent trades where I am testing the 7 EAs (arranged by comments/magic numbers)

      2. Then, what I would do is connect the account with FXBlue and see which EAs are most profitable:

      In this case, I have 4 that bring profits in current market conditions. So I can pick 1 or 2 that I would trade on my challenge or FTMO-funded account.

      At the moment the FTMO Robot for EURNZD is the top performer.

      And I always combine with the scaling-up system I show in the FTMO Course.

      3. All the EAs have SL, check the first screenshot.

      But that is what I would do. It doesn’t mean you have to do it the same way. 🙂

       

    • #195152
      User AvatarJanek
      Participant

      Hi,

      Is the EURNZD still the best performer?

      Thanks,
      Janek

    • #195460

      Hey Janek,

      In the last few days of the week, it was the EURAUD. I recorded a video showing exactly how I manage it:

    • #195685
      User AvatarJanek
      Participant

      Hi Petko,

      Thank you  for creating the video and answering here 🙂

    • #198885

      Hey Janek,

      I appreciate it! I am going to add this video to the course since it turned out to be valuable indeed!

    • #202784
      User AvatarCraig Craig
      Participant

      Hi all,

      These 7 bots have different Risk to Reward Ratios. Is that correct? The default EA’s when loaded?

      AUDNZD 1 to 0.5

      EURAUD 1 to 0.56

      EURCAD 1 to 0.41

      EURNZD 1 to 1.5

      GBPAUD 1 to 1.85

      GBPCAD 1 to 0.83

      NZDJPY 1 to 0.44

      Or do I need to change the RR to a 1 to 2 or 1 to 3?

       

      Thanks

       

    • #202788
      User AvatarCraig Craig
      Participant

      Sorry to add, I’d these RR’s are correct I would need to modify my Lot sizes so that the max lot size is 1%?

      • #202856
        User AvatarAlan Northam
        Moderator

        I think what you are wanting to do is to limit the risk of account loss to 1%.  This is done by a calculation based upon the account size, risk in percent, and the Stop Loss.  All the EAs have their individual SL set to the required number of pips to equal an account loss of 1% so you do not need to change anything.  All you need to do is set the lot size based upon your account size as follows:

        200K Account: Amount for new position = 6.0 / Maximum position amount = 6.0
        100K Account: Amount for new position = 3.0 / Maximum position amount = 3.0
        50K Account: Amount for new position = 1.5 / Maximum position amount = 1.5
        25K Account: Amount for new position = 0.75 / Maximum position amount = 0.75
        10K Account: Amount for new position = 0.30 / Maximum position amount = 0.30

    • #214483

      HELLO EVERYONE. IM JUST WONDERING IF IS GOOD OR NOT TO RUN THE 8 ROBOTS AT SAME TIME TO START A 10K CHALLENGE. IM SCARED THAT MORE THAN ONE LOSE AND ACHIEVE THE DAILY DRAWDOWN. MAYBE THE EXPERIENCE OF SOMEONE ELSE CAN HELP ME

    • #214580
      User AvatarTorbjorn Brenden
      Participant

      I have tested running 7 robots (except gold) on a demo account for 2 weeks with losing results.
      However if I selected the 3 best pairs it give positive returns.

      I recommend to run them on demo first and test for yourself.

    • #214598

      Thank you I appreciate it. What are the 3 best pairs? And the ones to avoid ?

    • #214616
      User AvatarNicholas Grobler
      Participant

      Run all 8 for two weeks. Then pick the top three most profitable. That is the process basically. Petko mentioned he now runs them on a three day period then picks the best ones. I do not see this working simply because the EA’s do not open a lot of trades. Either way. Activate all eight on your TEST account, NOT live account. Then pick the top ones for Live account.

    • #214781
      User AvatarMalik Mehboob
      Participant

      Ok and once you select three pair what is the surety they will work next week? So its mean we have to keep running 8 pairs forever on demo and keep switching according to the market situation. Thats my opinion. Appreciate if someone can correct me

    • #215177
      User AvatarIlan Vardy
      Moderator

      Hi Malik,

       

      There is no guarantee that if an EA is profitable today, it will be profitable tomorrow. It is determined entirely by the market. As Nicholas has said, and you mentioned too, you should keep all 8 on a demo account, link your demo account to a website like MyFXBook (Check out this video: https://youtu.be/H19yWrotTVg), and monitor the performance, even daily, putting only currently profitable EAs onto your challenge account.

       

      Cheers,

      Ilan

    • #215212
      User AvatarLucas0112
      Participant

      He guys,

      I have some question before I turn on Algo Trading with the EA’s. Hopefully you can answer them.

       

      1) First question is: what are the top 3 best performing pairs right know. I installed the EA’s on a demo, but since Monday so I don’t have enough results, but I would like to start with my 100K Funding Pips account (challenge).

      2) If I trade the best 3 performing pairs, is it necessary to decrease the risk, or are the normal setfiles enough for the top 3? So let’s say the top 3 are: Gold (o,49 lots), EUR/USD (3,87 lots) and USD/CHF (1,78 lots). Can I just rely on these setfiles given lot sizes, or do I have to decrease them since I’m using 3 of them?

       

      3) When there is news, especially red USD folder news, do I always have to close all positions? And when im not at home, it’s difficult to turn off Algo trading. Does the EA’s have a setting it won’t place any trades in the radius of like 30 minutes around news, or is the Algo trading turn off a must?

       

      Thanks in advance!

    • #215291
      User AvatarMarin Stoyanov
      Keymaster

      Hello Lucas, straight to your questions.

      1) You have to test the 7 EAs+Gold EAs and see which one performs best currently, we can’t say which is the top performer because tomorrow it may not be.

      2) If you use the default set files then it’s okay to trade with 3 EAs. The set files will allow a maximum daily drawdown of 1% per robot. If you want to be on the safe side, you can additioanly decrease the lots. For example if you want to have no more that 1% daily drawdown then you would need to divide every lot by 3 becuase you have 3 EAs running.

      3) It is a personal choice if one will close trades manually. But personally we do not close trades during news. We are working on implementing the news into the EA.

      Kind regards,

      Marin @ Customer Support team

    • #215485
      User AvatarTanyeem gazi
      Participant

      do i have to change the top performers every week or every monday? and i think their should even more detailed video of this robot, a lot of key pieces are missing

    • #215832
      User AvatarLucas0112
      Participant

      He,

      I am running the EA’s on a demoaccount, and now it’s Friday. So im wondering do we have to close the trade(s) before the weekend, or if the EA have an open trade, let it stand over the weekend, and wait for it to close itself the next week?

       

      Thanks in advance

    • #215902
      User AvatarAnthony Hall
      Participant

      Hi,

      I’ve just left mine open, did the same last week.

      Cheers,

      Anthony

    • #215910
      User AvatarDylan Mueller
      Participant

      Hey guys i am after a few opinions here, particularly from anyone has been algo trading for some time, do you believe it is better to move the stop loss? so far i have been waiting for clear structure on the 1 hr timeframe and moving my stoploss a few pips above or below the structure and I have been profitable 2 weeks in a row with v5 robot and my win loss is better then backtested results however i am concerned that i am basically running a different strategy to the backtest. How have you guys been managing your stops and or early closes?

    • #216133
      User AvatarAlan Northam
      Moderator

      Closing EA’s on Friday is a personal choice.  What I do is as follows:  If my EA’s are in profit and heading upward towards TP, I will leave them open over the weekend.  However, if my EA’s are in losing positions and heading downward towards SL I will close the positions and let them start new trades the following week.

      Alan,

    • #216171
      User AvatarAlan Northam
      Moderator

      EA’s created by EA Studio, FSBpro, or ExpressGenerator, place the SL and TP at particular price levels because in their backtesting these are the price levels where the EA generate the most profit over the backtesting time frame. It is therefore my opinion that SL and or TP should not be moved.

      Alan,

    • #216190
      User AvatarLuce
      Participant

      Hello,

      if you choose for example just 1 pair to trade on the FTMO account, do reccomend to increase the lot size or leave it like in the set files, so a losing trade would make -1% of the account?

      BR Luce

    • #216265
      User AvatarAlan Northam
      Moderator

      You could increase the lot size to 2%.  I my opinion, 3% or more would incur too much risk!

      Alan,

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